[Attacking A New Casino] Which method do you prefer?

[hitthat16]

Let this be known to all: With the advances in Computer Science, AP blackjack will become increasingly difficult. Unless you want plastic surgery every time you are tapped, learn to keep it polite. Time is running out.

/opinion

That's what everyone said 20-30 years ago, but here we are..

[DSchles]

That's what everyone said 20-30 years ago, but here we are..

Here we are WHERE? With the worst blackjack conditions in the history of the game?

Don

[Three]

Griffin smiffin. They could easily snap your picture with a cell phone while you decided to stick around and have a folksy chat. Simply a photo, with a caption saying "guess who's coming to dinner," to all the other casino pits in the area. In seconds.

They already have your picture if you stepped foot in the casino. They don't need to snap another unless they just want to avoid backtracking you until the videos give a nice picture.

[Joe Mama]

They see you when you're are sleeping, they know when you're awake.
I just sat down at a table to play when a casino manager came over and asked if I was playing at a certain table a week prior. I hesitantly said, "yes, I may have been" . Then he told me that the table where I was playing was found to be short a few cards during the time I had been playing there. I thought I was going to be accused of something, but kept my mouth shut. Then he said they were tracking down all the players during that time to refund money lost during the short decks, and took me to the cage and refunded my loss from the session in question. The manager told me that I was the last player they tracked down, and that one guy got refunded $900.
So can they get a picture of you and know who you are? I think so!

[ZenMaster_Flash]

Joe Mama's tale of refunded money is a nice one. The money
was refunded, because, had they been unable to locate the
players, the money would probably, I think, revert to the state,
and the patrons would be unable to lose it back to the casino.
The only reason that this took place was that the casino's internal
auditors would have a discrepancy to explain if they failed to return
the funds. 'Failure to Comply' with the labyrinthine I.R.S. and State
Gaming Commissions procedures and accounting guidelines results
in surprisingly heavy fines.

[Jabberwocky]

Here we are WHERE? With the worst blackjack conditions in the history of the game?

Don

It could be much worse. There are still good games out there - but much harder to locate.

[RS]

Here we are WHERE? With the worst blackjack conditions in the history of the game?

Don

Here we are.....still able to make money playing blackjack. Since who knows when, people have been saying "the end is near". But it's still going.

[lij45o6]

That's what everyone said 20-30 years ago, but here we are..

20-30 years ago, we did not have accelerated GPU that can perform matrix operations quicker than you can count to 21 with an ace and face.

You would be surprised at how fast and clean a computer can take bits and work with them.

Add to that, camera tech as increased DRAMATICALLY! No more fuzzy shots. WE are talking 1080P. pass that via a GPU cluster, hash away, and use a quick sort algo and you are done.

Here we are WHERE? With the worst blackjack conditions in the history of the game?

Don

Worse? Maybe. Depending on how long you have been playing. What is worse is the corporate attitude that every penny lost is worse than paying dollars to stop said loss. That is what's wrong.

Griffin smiffin. They could easily snap your picture with a cell phone while you decided to stick around and have a folksy chat. Simply a photo, with a caption saying "guess who's coming to dinner," to all the other casino pits in the area. In seconds.

Same with SIN, OSN, etc...

Joe Mama's tale of refunded money is a nice one. The money
was refunded, because, had they been unable to locate the
players, the money would probably, I think, revert to the state,
and the patrons would be unable to lose it back to the casino.
The only reason that this took place was that the casino's internal
auditors would have a discrepancy to explain if they failed to return
the funds. 'Failure to Comply' with the labyrinthine I.R.S. and State
Gaming Commissions procedures and accounting guidelines results
in surprisingly heavy fines.

50,000 USD per offence (depending on your jurisdiction)

[lij45o6]

Here we are.....still able to make money playing blackjack. Since who knows when, people have been saying "the end is near". But it's still going.

Funny, when BTD came out...all the old guys talked about the end of 21.

Instead, it became to most widely played card game, after poker and baccarat.


The issue here is the attitude by casinos (especially corporate owned and operated) in which any AP is a loss not worth ignoring, when in fact the cost of using the tools mentioned are better (and more equitable) against cheaters and frauds harming the house and its patrons. If casinos never bothered counters and counters agreed to be less greedy, then I can see the casinos using counters as a form of cheap advertisement.

[seriousplayer]

Last store I played at, logged approximately 550 hours before the tap. Up over 100 max bets. If I didn't lose all my sessions in the HL room on the DD, I'd probably would've laid odds of extracting 250K from a store within 2 years (but perhaps the tap would've came sooner due to cumulative win). With that being said. Throughout the 1/2 year or so, I literally went 3-4 days a week. 2-3 hours per day. Almost every PB, every shift knew me. It'd shocked me if they didn't. The ban came. But I tombstoned the shit out of it.

If I go 3-4 days a week to my new store, playing unrated won't work under these premise.

At a $300-$400 betting level you are playing with heat unless your are not playing with an advantage.

[seriousplayer]

20 to One Spread,

Nothing personal, but you are very obviously a
callow youth who believes what he wants to believe.

Your photos and name will be on the podium of every
casino from coast to coast, following your idiotic plans.

Exit your fantasy world. Get some psychiatric help.
Grow up. Learn from your elders. Be realistic.

You are right the OP's photos and name will spread all over town in Las Vegas but that doesn't mean that it would always be a bad thing. Because casinos like to taunt and tease players who win large amount of money. The casino will think that the OP is just one of the losers, suckers and average gamblers out there and will get them to play at their casino to see if they can get the OP to lose part or all of the money back.

But if the OP is the real deal he win the longer he play. Because if you have an edge and play long edge over a greater amount of hands the player will win.

[hitthat16]

Here we are WHERE? With the worst blackjack conditions in the history of the game?

Don

That may be so, but there are also tons more places to practice the craft world wide than in any other time period.

[Sharky]

Here we are WHERE? With the worst blackjack conditions in the history of the game?

Don

EVERYWHERE but Vegas and AC, of course....competition has been GREAT for BJ...not only rules, but caliber of "eyes"

"Roughly 20 years ago, only six states offered commercial casinos. Today, 18 states have commercial casinos, and a total of 30 states offer legalized gambling of any kind (commercial or tribal). Some of the latest states to join the ranks of those that allow commercial gaming include Maine, Ohio, Kansas and Maryland."