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    Maybe you meant to say if you do not know,however you can reread for your self and see what you said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    I said IF you do not know the dealer's down card ...
    You also said:

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    IF you know, for a fact, that the dealer has an 18,
    then YES, you surrender, but the gain/loss is trivial!
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    Does norm's chart say to surrender 17 vs a known 18?

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    Yes, the chart is a few posts above.
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    I noticed on the chart it says to surrender 15 against AA,but then it has 16 against AA as a stand.This seems strange.

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    I'm trying to reproduce the chart without success.

    CVData Version 5.0.124
    Template "Index Generation"
    Rules:Late Surrender
    Nuances -> HoleCard -> "Hole-carding enabled", HC seen percentage=100%
    Indexes -> "Surrender" -> check all

    What is wrong ?

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    Start with the Index Generation - Hole-Carding template.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndretheGiant View Post
    I noticed on the chart it says to surrender 15 against AA,but then it has 16 against AA as a stand.This seems strange.
    With S17, doesn't much matter as these are extremely close calls. With H17, I get a HiLo index of -3 for both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Start with the Index Generation - Hole-Carding template.
    It was my first try (during wich I discovered Nuances/Holecard") with same results.
    But I have found. I have to generate other indexes (Hard H/S)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    With S17, doesn't much matter as these are extremely close calls. With H17, I get a HiLo index of -3 for both.
    Norm,can you post the full surrender charts for h17 and s17 with indices? I didn't see it in your book.

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