B-rona: to play or not to play

**blueman** · 10-03-2016, 07:56 PM

A buddy and I are wanting to plan a trip to the B-rona area. Does anyone know how the flyering works in that area (including the pa1m spr1ngs area)? I think B contributes to osn, correct? And they will catch you fast? (Betting 2x600 at tc3) will they flyer an AP to the surrounding joints? Obviously their games are the best. Debating if B would be a good place to go, or just go to all the other ones and skip B because they're too good? Suggestions/advice? Thanks!!

**ZeeBabar** · 10-03-2016, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by blueman

A buddy and I are wanting to plan a trip to the B-rona area. Does anyone know how the flyering works in that area (including the pa1m spr1ngs area)? I think B contributes to osn, correct? And they will catch you fast? (Betting 2x600 at tc3) will they flyer an AP to the surrounding joints? Obviously their games are the best. Debating if B would be a good place to go, or just go to all the other ones and skip B because they're too good? Suggestions/advice? Thanks!!

It appears that you are not interested in places that do not allow you to bet 2x600 or $1200 a single hand. Are there so many "all the other places" that allow you to play at that level? Just asking.

**hitthat16** · 10-03-2016, 08:37 PM

I've been backed off and also returned to B. I'm a light to chunky green player though so I'm not sure if my info would be what you're looking for. Obviously you'd be watched closer betting chunky black and light purple.

**blueman** · 10-03-2016, 09:01 PM

We still would play places betting less. That is just my ideal top bet. Ive played places with 300 maxes as well. Trying to plan this out strategically for the most overall hours allowed. Do they all flyer with one another?

**blueman** · 10-03-2016, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by hitthat16

I've been backed off and also returned to B. I'm a light to chunky green player though so I'm not sure if my info would be what you're looking for. Obviously you'd be watched closer betting chunky black and light purple.

Did you have any flyering problems after playing b with any other places after the back off?

**seriousplayer** · 10-03-2016, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by blueman

We still would play places betting less. That is just my ideal top bet. Ive played places with 300 maxes as well. Trying to plan this out strategically for the most overall hours allowed. Do they all flyer with one another?

If you insist to play there. Just so that you are ready. Barona casino is one of the knowledgeable casinos out there. Given that Barona is a knowledgeable casino they will know who the successful card counters are by taking time to analyze their play. If they find that you are a successful card counters they will back you off. You might not longer than 4 hours if they find that you are a real threat to them. If they find that you are not a threat of course Barona will let you play there and take your money. As simple as that. I don't view getting backed off and barred as a badge of honor because you won't be able to play to make money. What good is that if you can't play?

How do I know?

I have AP friends that warn me not to play at Barona. I rather be allow to play so I can make money.

If you are there take time to visit the Blackjack Hall of Fame which is housed in the Barona Casino. Yes, Barona is a database participant.

**blueman** · 10-03-2016, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by seriousplayer

If you insist to play there. Just so that you are ready. Barona casino is one of the knowledgeable casinos out there. Given that Barona is a knowledgeable casino they will know who the successful card counters are by taking time to analyze their play. If they find that you are a successful card counters they will back you off. You might not longer than 4 hours if they find that you are a real threat to them. If they find that you are not a threat of course Barona will let you play there and take your money. As simple as that. I don't view getting backed off and barred as a badge of honor because you won't be able to play to make money. What good is that if you can't play?

How do I know?

I have AP friends that warn me not to play at Barona. I rather be allow to play so I can make money.

If are there take time to visit the Blackjack Hall of Fame which is housed in the Barona Casino. Yes, Barona is a database participant.

Well im surprised they give you that long. Ive been to some top notch places and they didnt let me last 1 hour. Too quick to know if i was actually playing a winning game imo. What kind of knowledge do you have about the surrounding places, and the places in pa1m spr1ngs?

**seriousplayer** · 10-04-2016, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by blueman

Well im surprised they give you that long. Ive been to some top notch places and they didnt let me last 1 hour. Too quick to know if i was actually playing a winning game imo. What kind of knowledge do you have about the surrounding places, and the places in pa1m spr1ngs?

Don't have knowledge of places in palm springs and surrounding area.

**hitthat16** · 10-04-2016, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by blueman

Did you have any flyering problems after playing b with any other places after the back off?

Not as far as I know. I got backed off at h-rrahs r-ncon a couple months after that. No idea if those were related or not.

When I returned to B again I made sure to be more polite and come off the top with 2 units more often. I also played shorter sessions and timed it so that I would also get a shift change while I was there.

**blueman** · 10-04-2016, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by hitthat16

Not as far as I know. I got backed off at h-rrahs r-ncon a couple months after that. No idea if those were related or not.

When I returned to B again I made sure to be more polite and come off the top with 2 units more often. I also played shorter sessions and timed it so that I would also get a shift change while I was there.

Whats your top bet, 2x200?

**hitthat16** · 10-04-2016, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by blueman

Whats your top bet, 2x200?

Varies depending on the game I'm playing. 1-6 to be polite and 1-8 if I'm feeling welcome. Green.

**ZenMaster_Flash** · 10-05-2016, 03:38 PM

Here is a piece of unsolicited advice:

A very basic "choke point" is what fraction of the table max you are willing to bet.

If you bet more than ½ max you'll be barred and your photos, etc. circulated.

In hostile paranoid stores I suggest maxing out your bets at ? or ¼ the table max.

There are other "choke points" such as "spread" (bet ramp), buy-in amount, etc.

**blueman** · 10-16-2016, 03:27 AM

So i now know for sure that im in osn, should this affect my decision to play brona? Would they see me in osn and just give me the insta boot or still evaluate me and make sure im a winning player? Maybe i should play now since I'm already in osn??