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  1. 10-06-2016, 07:22 AM #1
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    I am somewhat new to casino blackjack and would really appreciate any comments from experienced players. I am in the Midwest and have played about 6 times and have won more than I lost and have practiced a number of times, free on-line with decent success. I seem to have pretty good luck on the 21-3 table and have more luck playing the 3 card 9:1 winnings. I am looking at the publication Blackjack Attack Strategy – The “Rhythm of the Cards” Method and wondered if anyone has given it a serious try? If so what did you think of it.

    Also I am not much into card counting but wondered if maybe trying to keep track of at least the 10 cards (10-A) would be beneficial. It just seems keeping track of those 30 cards in 6 decks would be much easier than some of the other counting methods. Is there any really good book or video that stands out to increase your chances of winning substantially? Finally is there any strategy out there on-line that anyone is aware of about playing the 3 card side bet on the black jack table, I can not seem to find much?

    thanks for your input!
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  2. 10-06-2016, 07:27 AM #2
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    “Rhythm of the Cards”     is a complete and utter hoax.

    There is NO such rhythm !
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  3. 10-06-2016, 08:00 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by FANOFBJ View Post
    I am somewhat new to casino blackjack and would really appreciate any comments from experienced players. I am in the Midwest and have played about 6 times and have won more than I lost and have practiced a number of times, free on-line with decent success. I seem to have pretty good luck on the 21-3 table and have more luck playing the 3 card 9:1 winnings. I am looking at the publication Blackjack Attack Strategy – The “Rhythm of the Cards” Method and wondered if anyone has given it a serious try? If so what did you think of it.

    Also I am not much into card counting but wondered if maybe trying to keep track of at least the 10 cards (10-A) would be beneficial. It just seems keeping track of those 30 cards in 6 decks would be much easier than some of the other counting methods. Is there any really good book or video that stands out to increase your chances of winning substantially? Finally is there any strategy out there on-line that anyone is aware of about playing the 3 card side bet on the black jack table, I can not seem to find much?

    thanks for your input!
    I have read Blackjack Attack. In the book it didn't mention the method of "Rhythm of the Cards". There is no such thing as the rhythm of the cards. A method called "Rhythm betting" was published in the book "Basic Blackjack Betting" by Charles Einstein. The Rhythm Betting method described in the book say that a player should bet more while winning and less while losing regardless of the count. However, his method was later rejected by many mathematician and Blackjack analysis. Proved to be unworthy by Peter Griffin using the Bayes Theorem. Then Arnold Snyder concluded that the Rhythm Betting system does not work. There has been many debates on progression betting for years. Many Blackjack analysis have studied the game and made a conclusion that card counting is one of the ways to win at Blackjack.

    What justified there rejection to the Rhythm Betting and progression system was through research using computer simulations and the mathematical concept called the Bayes Theorem. For that being said if you are not interested in card counting than I would suggest you master Basic Strategy for the game you are playing and never deviate from basic strategy. Then use hand interaction to reduced the house edge further.

    Read article :"Can You Play Basic Strategy With No House Edge".

    http://renzey.casinocitytimes.com/ar...use-edge-40928
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    KUDOS to seriousplayer.

    See the 4 tabs on the main window at:

    https://arbital.com/p/bayes_rule/
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  5. 10-06-2016, 08:33 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post

    KUDOS to seriousplayer.

    See the 4 tabs on the main window at:

    https://arbital.com/p/bayes_rule/
    https://www.khanacademy.org/math/pre...rem-visualized
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    What is the % of each hand the dealer will win?
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    Welcome Fan. I am a fairly new player as well. Have you mastered basic strategy? If you intend to go no further than BS play, they have a few good apps that can make that process very quickly. Unfortunately, the wins you have experienced online have been what is referred to as variance. Straight up blackjack without any sort of count system or otherwise AP plays is a negative value game in the long run. Playing perfect strategy you are usually playing with a .5% house edge. That small edge accompanied by some lucky streaks is what has allowed you to be ahead. Now, the article posted by seriousplayer and hand interaction can indeed cut into that edge, but at that point you will be putting more effort into those than it would take to learn a simple count. I would advise you to look into the multiple counts out there, and not assume you are unable to learn one. It takes repetition, but it is doable. If you can memorize all of BS, I'd be willing to wager that you can implement a break even simpler count.

    As for 21+3, the side bet is also a negative EV bet. Meaning, while you may make a few hot hands playing the side bet, longevity will prove it to be a losing battle.
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    Thanks S.W. What does AP stand for? I have a good knowledge of BS play. When it comes to counting cards, I would like to maybe keep track of the 10 cards, 10-A as that seems very doable for me. I am sure there is some advantage for knowing how many of the 30 high cards are still in the decks. Here is how I play. I adjust my bets depending on the number of games I lose or win in a row. If I lost 2 or 3 in a row I am going to bet bigger money cause it is highly likely your going to win a hand very soon. If i win 2 or 3 I bet less for the same reason, I know a lose is coming. That goes for 3 card too, if I do not hit after 4 or 5 hands I raise my bet. Also I tend NOT to draw to anything above 14 no matter what the dealer has. I do not like to beat myself and have had decent luck by not busting and letting the dealer bust. I have seen the game take good and bad turns for me and you have to have some bank roll playing on $10 tables. I may get down a few hundred but end up walking out $125-$450 ahead which has been the case the last 3 times at the casinos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FANOFBJ View Post
    When it comes to counting cards, I would like to maybe keep track of the 10 cards, 10-A as that seems very doable for me.
    There is little gain in only knowing how many hi cards are left.

    Quote Originally Posted by FANOFBJ View Post
    If I lost 2 or 3 in a row I am going to bet bigger money cause it is highly likely your going to win a hand very soon.
    Sorry, that's simply not true. It's called "Gambler's Fallacy."
    "I don't think outside the box; I think of what I can do with the box." - Henri Matisse
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    Quote Originally Posted by FANOFBJ View Post

    What is the % of each hand the dealer will win?
    Wins are a shade below 43%, 12% are "pushes" and 45% losses.
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    12% are NOT pushes!! Pushes are just under 9%. We've already been over this.

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  12. 10-07-2016, 08:17 AM #12
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    It seems that 12% is @ TC=+13
    https://blackjackincolor.com/truecount5.htm
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    Thanx Don. Twice now I have made the same error !

    I am going to blame these lapses on some medical

    problems which are cluttering my mind while they

    attack my internal organs.
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