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    If they exchange for play chips then it is just like money.Even if the chips can not be cash. Jg said it clearly ,coupon are like rebates and non cash chips (keep if push) are like regular chips

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    Pai Gow Poker ?
    Don't you have to be Asian to play Pai Gow?

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    I am not sure that 3 CP play gives face value. I recall that for a play once coupon it would be about 63%.
    For play till you lose coupon with even money only, it can be played on baccarat or craps with close to 99%. It can also be played on BJ for splits or double where even money is expected. In this case the value is 99.5% but you have to use other money to play the game.
    For play only once (keep if you push) coupons, best value comes from games with highest frequency of losing and higher reward for winning. As BP mentioned playing a number on roulette will get 92.5%, if it is allowed. Another option that a tie on baccarat which would get close to 90%.

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    If the chips given to you are the same like any other chips, then you play exactly the same. Yes, you reach to your pocket to double when it is positive EV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burney View Post
    Thanks, but Beyond Coupons didn't deal with what I'm asking.
    Read it again. There is a section in Beyond Coupons on blackjack basic strategy deviations (near the end).

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    Quote Originally Posted by burney View Post
    Say it's a $10 coupon, if I win the hand I get $20.
    Are you sure?

    I believe you will just get the $10 if you win.....??
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    No, you get $20


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    That's a hell of a valuable coupon if it pays 2:1.

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    I have a question. Lol. (Ok guys I had three years of Math and Physics in college. Lol.) Anyway, I don't get this:

    In the baccarat example, the high variance of the Tie bet makes it the best use of the match-
    play coupon. With probability 0.0951560, we win $160 (an 8:1 payo on our \$20" bet), and with
    probability 0.9048440, we lose $10, for an expectation of $6.18. Perhaps you feel this was a trick
    question, because you were assuming that the coupon had the common restriction to even-money
    bets only. Fair enough|so now you're betting Banker, eh? The expectation on the Banker bet is
    0.4585974 X $19 - 0.4462466 - $10 = $4:25. The expectation on the Player bet is 0:4462466 X $20 - 0:4585974 X $10 = $4:34.

    That is, where does he get the numbers: 0.9048440, 0.4585974, 0.4462466?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Don't you have to be Asian to play Pai Gow?
    Depends on whether it's Pai Gow (a domino game) or Pai Gow Poker (a card game). It's probably easier to play PG if you're Asian. I believe the ref was to PGP. I played PGP in probably every casino in which it was offered when it was introduced. Oddly, the best rules were at the Barbary Coast, an otherwise burn joint. Which was actually clever of them.
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    the probablities of the tie, banker ,and player bets. so what is the problem , i don't understand ? i don't think the first one is the probablitity of tie bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    Are you sure?

    I believe you will just get the $10 if you win.....??
    it is not a free play coupon . the op said he gets chip for that ( idk what kind of chips)

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    Quote Originally Posted by stopgambling View Post
    it is not a free play coupon . the op said he gets chip for that ( idk what kind of chips)
    Regular chips


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