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    Mohegan and Foxwoods

    I was planning on going up to Atlantic City this weekend but have since reconsidered that I might try going to Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods a little further north. What is the most recent word on conditions? Good for 10k bankroll? How is heat?
    Anything cool to do up there beyond the casinos? Are these the only two casinos in the area? What should I know beyond conditions? Promos? Drink service? Good restaurants?
    Any notes are appreciated, I hear one of them has s17.

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    Foxwoods believe in the Zender model so their profits are high. They protect their great games from true threats but will let you play a while trying to decide if you are an AP that while lose your BR or one that will win consistently. Once you have impressed them they will act. If you are good you can win mid 5 to 6 figures before you get the axe. If you are obvious who knows how long they will tolerate you. If they think you are a wannabe or a BR challenged they should tolerate you. There are ways to sell the BR challenged. I hope you don't need them stated to you in the open forum. MS is a shithole.

    I like the Red Lantern for sushi and Asian food. They used to have the best hot and sour soup. It is still a great hot and sour soup but not the meal it once was. Try the lobster pasta dish at the Italian restaurant, Al Dente's. It's called Aragosta Fra Diavalo. It is really good and the presentation is really something. If you are a take a picture and post it foodie you will not be disappointed. If not the meal is delicious. If you want really fancy and don't care the cost try the Vue 24 on the 24th floor of the Pequot Tower. There is an ultra high limit casino up there as well. Some of that casino is so exclusive it is behind a locked door.

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    Everything Tthree said about Foxwoods is 100% accurate.

    The only thing I would add is, the good thing about Mohegan Sun is there is virtually no heat because their penetration is so bad. They rarely will back someone off for counting cards, and based on my experience with them, they don't think their game is really penetrable to counting. That's not to say they don't back people off ever. They will, especially if you are new, and being blatant. That being said, once you establish yourself, you can get away with a pretty hefty spread there. But with such terrible variance, it's gonna have to be high.

    I could understand why Tthree would not like MS since they basically ruined the game of SP21 with all their stupid rule inventions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FalseCount View Post
    I was planning on going up to Atlantic City this weekend but have since reconsidered that I might try going to Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods a little further north. What is the most recent word on conditions? Good for 10k bankroll? How is heat?
    Anything cool to do up there beyond the casinos? Are these the only two casinos in the area? What should I know beyond conditions? Promos? Drink service? Good restaurants?
    Any notes are appreciated, I hear one of them has s17.
    To add to what T3 and BJF said, if you want to play Spanish, pass straight by MS, as their NDSA (no draw to split aces) rule renders their game 100% Filthy, Smelly TRASH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Walker View Post
    "To add to what T3 and BJF said, if you want to play Spanish, pass straight by MS,
    as their NDSA (no draw to split aces) rule renders their game 100% Filthy, Smelly TRASH."
    It is even worse than that, because they deal Span21 with 8 decks, BUT
    do not be surprised to see somewhere between 2 and 2.5 decks cut off.



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    You can find enough low-min tables ($10) for your BR.

    However, you won't make much money because tables are usually full, or fill up very quickly. Obviously late at night or early morning you can find better pickings.

    The HL rooms are emptier and have better games - however firstly at $25 min a bit high for your BR and secondly, backoffs seem to originate from HL room play.


    Quote Originally Posted by FalseCount View Post
    I was planning on going up to Atlantic City this weekend but have since reconsidered that I might try going to Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods a little further north. What is the most recent word on conditions? Good for 10k bankroll? How is heat?
    Anything cool to do up there beyond the casinos? Are these the only two casinos in the area? What should I know beyond conditions? Promos? Drink service? Good restaurants?
    Any notes are appreciated, I hear one of them has s17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    Foxwoods believe in the Zender model so their profits are high.
    Bill Zender actually say to offer Blackjack games with decent rules and superior penetration this way it provides their casino management with higher win percentages holds. The typical penetration in Foxwood is not superior it is a standard 75% cut off. Some blackjack games under $10 they collect a $.25 fee. That is not a decent Blackjack rule.
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    I played there several times recently and I never
    saw penetration as poor as 1.5 decks cut off of 6

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    They must have Seriousplayer pegged as an AP but not a threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    They must have Seriousplayer pegged as an AP but not a threat.
    I am following what the condition in CBNJ said. I haven't played at Foxwood for a while since I found the PA games to have the better conditions. In terms of Indian Casinos I play at Mohegan Sun more often than Foxwood. I usually backcount at Mohegan sun in Connecticut. I have more comps there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousplayer View Post
    I am following what the condition in CBNJ said.
    A good rule of thumb for the CBJN is if they report ridiculously bad conditions it is worth checking it out for yourself. Most of the reporters are AP's. If you were a reporter to the CBJN, would you flag your best penetration games for being descended on by hordes that will make things crowded at the least or burn the game entirely at the worst? If you find something good be as smart as the CBJN reporter was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    If you were a reporter to the CBJN, would you flag your best penetration games for being descended on by hordes that will make things crowded at the least or burn the game entirely at the worst? If you find something good be as smart as the CBJN reporter was.
    Current Blackjack News Three Months Pricing on Bj21.com for web version $35
    Current Blackjack News 12 Months Pricing on bj21.com for web version $109

    You paying all these money just to find out that the degree of excellence of the game conditions in the newsletter has been taken away or inaccurate. Thanks CBJN reporters!

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousplayer View Post
    Current Blackjack News Three Months Pricing on Bj21.com for web version $35
    Current Blackjack News 12 Months Pricing on bj21.com for web version $109

    You paying all these money just to find out that the degree of excellence of the game conditions in the newsletter has been taken away. Thanks CBJN reporters!
    The CBJN is a very useful tool. If they reported great conditions honestly it would be less useful. If you think you can substitute the CBJN for networking you are making a horrible error. The key to networking is to have a small group that shares info. If networks intersect you have a phone tree. You can be in multiple networks but if you share info you find on your own with more than one you are hurting yourself. If you share other peoples info that you got through networking with another network you betray everyone in the first network.

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