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    Seriousplayer and BJGenious

    Would you guys be interested in combining bankrolls and forming a 3 man team? Im completely burned out from doing this solo, but the team approach has always been on my mind from day 1. Training and finding dedicated people is rare, but I know you guys have been playing a long time just like I have and I also know you guys live close by to where I play so this idea popped into my head. If Threee also joined the party, that would be even better.

    I got 35k to put up, let me know what you guys have and then we can possibly get this rolling, if of course you guys are interested. Maybe we can also get a 4th or 5th as well, but no more than that for now. If anyone in the NJ/PA/Maryland region is interested and has money to contribute towards a team bankroll, feel free to post. We have a nice rotation of stores in PA we can attack as well as AC and Delaware/Maryland which have good games, so a team around here can definitely do some damage, if of course we can get a really nice bankroll together.

    Shoot me your emails.
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    Doing far too well solo. I trained another to do my system and if I team up it will be with that person.

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    Why you need team? Game in team is a big mistake !
    "Don't Cast Your Pearls Before Swine" (Jesus)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    Why you need team? Game in team is a big mistake !
    When patience wears thin, forming a team is the conventional antidote; but causing even greater problems. Maybe sell the movie rights to Hollywood? They could likely use another gambling - themed production. The downside is Mat Damon in the leading role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneWoLF View Post
    Would you guys be interested in combining bankrolls and forming a 3 man team? Im completely burned out from doing this solo, but the team approach has always been on my mind from day 1. Training and finding dedicated people is rare, but I know you guys have been playing a long time just like I have and I also know you guys live close by to where I play so this idea popped into my head. If Threee also joined the party, that would be even better.

    I got 35k to put up, let me know what you guys have and then we can possibly get this rolling, if of course you guys are interested. Maybe we can also get a 4th or 5th as well, but no more than that for now. If anyone in the NJ/PA/Maryland region is interested and has money to contribute towards a team bankroll, feel free to post. We have a nice rotation of stores in PA we can attack as well as AC and Delaware/Maryland which have good games, so a team around here can definitely do some damage, if of course we can get a really nice bankroll together.

    Shoot me your emails.
    Sorry no. I am a recreational player. Playing Blackjack is just a very small part of my life. And if you read all my posts, you would know I don't trust PA casinos so I have minimized my playing time. I have to travel to other states to play.

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    You're panning for serious players - very difficult to find. Advertise yourself as a stakehorse. You'll need to be proficient in Spanish 21 as well because it gives you more options. Otherwise it's more wheel spinning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneWoLF View Post
    Would you guys be interested in combining bankrolls and forming a 3 man team? Im completely burned out from doing this solo, but the team approach has always been on my mind from day 1. Training and finding dedicated people is rare, but I know you guys have been playing a long time just like I have and I also know you guys live close by to where I play so this idea popped into my head. If Threee also joined the party, that would be even better.

    I got 35k to put up, let me know what you guys have and then we can possibly get this rolling, if of course you guys are interested. Maybe we can also get a 4th or 5th as well, but no more than that for now. If anyone in the NJ/PA/Maryland region is interested and has money to contribute towards a team bankroll, feel free to post. We have a nice rotation of stores in PA we can attack as well as AC and Delaware/Maryland which have good games, so a team around here can definitely do some damage, if of course we can get a really nice bankroll together.

    Shoot me your emails.
    I enjoy playing blackjack part time right now because I have work and other stuff in my life. I am not looking to form a team right now. However I am interested in networking with serious AP's and offering advices to improve your game.

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    Here is an idea

    LoneWolf,

    From looking at your previous posts, it seems like you are getting burned out on blackjack. Maybe starting a team and attacking blackjack is NOT optimal for you and possibly non-optimal for your prospective team-mates.

    What I would say is that instead of taking on casino heat, variance, losses, and extensive travel...all stress-related events, is that you transition from an entrepreneur to a capitalist/financier. Let others take on ALL the physical and mental risks while you only have to worry about ruin...or theft. Whichever is most probable. The best thing about financing other AP's is you can decide who is best and who will offer you the most bang-for-you-buck. Let someone use their super duper nth-level count with 325 indices to attack blackjack or, if you want tried and true, someone using HO-II/Zen attacking S17 games and DD.

    You are in control and can dictate where, when, and to some extent...how they play. You can even train so you know they are the best for YOU!

    Think about it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky View Post
    When patience wears thin, forming a team is the conventional antidote; but causing even greater problems.
    Team play is the equivalent of multi level counts in that it adds complexity and opportunity. It is not for all but it can be very productive if all the components are working. I disagree that it is the antidote for anything.

    The dynamics of team play is just another level of knowledge and different skills required with most not even being a consideration for the lone wolf (not to be confused with our forum member) player.

    Quality people is the first requirement and quality management is the next.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    Team play is the equivalent of multi level counts in that it adds complexity and opportunity. It is not for all but it can be very productive if all the components are working. I disagree that it is the antidote for anything.

    The dynamics of team play is just another level of knowledge and different skills required with most not even being a consideration for the lone wolf (not to be confused with our forum member) player.

    Quality people is the first requirement and quality management is the next.
    You've just passed judgment that the team idea won't fly. I couldn't agree more.

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    [quote=Jabberwocky;200333]You've just passed judgment that the team idea won't fly. I couldn't agree more.

    No, from my experience it will work, it is more complex and it is not for everyone. It is not an absolute, as in most things AP, it depends.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    This last week I had to travel to a casino where a BJ Team was in trouble.

    They only had $100,000 and that was inadequate to the level of their betting.

    There were two investor-players, and 3 others.

    After 6 hrs. 1/3 of the bankroll was gone.

    One of the two investors upped and quit and demanded

    fully ½ of the remaining funds.

    The other investor was infuriated as he had provided

    suites and limos for 5 (and ancillary credit line)

    He felt betrayed, lied to, abandoned and humiliated.

    Anger from (Investor #1) flared.

    Investor #2 was unwilling to pay Investor #1

    what he demanded, stating that their (verbal)

    contract was breached after 6 hrs. of a 3 day sojourn.

    At this time cooler heads are looking to prevail,

    but an accord is yet to be reached. A work in progress.

    Both sides blame the other for dramatically poor play,

    though non-player team members were clear that one side,

    was intensely exaggerating their skills and had sent signals

    that were diametrically opposed to the observable BJ realities.

    One of the parties refused to negotiate, and made not-so-veiled

    threats of a non-violent nature.





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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post


    This last week I had to travel to a casino where a BJ Team was in trouble.

    They only had $100,000 and that was inadequate to the level of their betting.

    There were two investor-players, and 3 others.

    After 6 hrs. 1/3 of the bankroll was gone.

    One of the two investors upped and quit and demanded

    fully ½ of the remaining funds.

    The other investor was infuriated as he had provided

    suites and limos for 5 (and ancillary credit line)

    He felt betrayed, lied to, abandoned and humiliated.

    Anger from (Investor #1) flared.

    Investor #2 was unwilling to pay Investor #1

    what he demanded, stating that their (verbal)

    contract was breached after 6 hrs. of a 3 day sojourn.

    At this time cooler heads are looking to prevail,

    but an accord is yet to be reached. A work in progress.

    Both sides blame the other for dramatically poor play,

    though non-player team members were clear that one side,

    was intensely exaggerating their skills and had sent signals

    that were diametrically opposed to the observable BJ realities.

    One of the parties refused to negotiate, and made not-so-veiled

    threats of a non-violent nature.




    I much prefer being a solo artist. Don't have to put up with bullshit.

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