Over a period of a year, I seem to win 6 of 10 sessions. However, my losing sessions seem to average a higher loss than my winning sessions so, while I am ahead, it's not by much.
I seem to win 6 of 10 sessions (60%). Some claim they win 8 or 9 of every 10 sessions. By sessions, I mean one session is from the time you enter a casino to the time you depart the same casino.
How are you faring?
I'd imagine how often you win your sessions depends on how long those sessions are. The larger you cut the slices of your life play the more likely you'll have more winning ones (assuming you're a winning player).
My average session is quite long 3.87 hours, mostly due to unique heat circumstances. I have won 114/199 sessions for 57.3%.
I would be a bit skeptical if someone won 8 or 9 out of every 10 sessions unless they were playing something quite high SCORE or had quite a small sample size.
A team played 2,875 sessions (75,000 rounds) (1200 were spotter sessions) with a session win rate of 54% and an advantage of 1.38%.
We won spotter sessions at a rate of 55%.
I have played over 500 sessions (54,000 rounds) of DD with a session win rate of 53% and an advantage of 1.59%.
A session began with a buy in at a table and ended when you left the table.
Hope this is helpful.
Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!
Most of those 2875 sessions were BP session that averaged 12-18 rounds of 2XPurple+. Called in a TC+2 flat bet 2XPurple+ and then play until -1. Then play until you lose both hands or the count goes back up or the shoe ends. There were some more protocols but this was most prevalent.Originally Posted by Freightman
Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!
Your session win frequency (or whatever you wanna call it), will also depend a bit on how you play, or rather, what causes you to depart. If I win a decent chunk of money in a few minutes, I may get up and leave, even if I only played 5-15 minutes. (But I live in LV so I can afford that.) Do you play until you get heat or win/lose a certain amount? Have a win/loss limit (or exit point) would change it too. If your spreading black 1-5 on DD with a 3k loss or 1k win limit, you're gonna show lots of winning sessions and few losing sessions. Similar to martingale win/loss sessions. If you only play 1 shoe, probably very 50/50....if you play 10 hours, (I would guess) your winning frequency would be fairly high.
I have no clue what my win/loss session frequency is. Perhaps I'll check my log and figure out a way to figure it out. It's mostly non-BJ play, and don't know if I want to count each individually, but maybe. For this year, if I had to guess, I'd say it feels like I'm winning 2/3 of my sessions....I'd guess less than 60 sessions YTD.
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So far this year, I've won 56 out of 104 sessions (53.8%). My play is heavily weighted towards a DD game that I've been milking (6-deck is probably about 15% of my play). Sessions are generally about 1 - 1.5 hours at which time I leave regardless of win/loss. So far this year I am way over EV (knock on wood). Cumulative results relative to EV show a z-score of +0.5. Let's all get some good cards for the rest of the year!
Hearing from you pros might give newbie's a better expectation. I think some get surprised if they even have a losing session.
53-55% by pros who know the game.
I tend end to play rated as there are only about 6 casinos in a 250 mile radius that I play at and I am very recognizable so it's the act that helps with heat. I play DD games for the most part, spreading 1-7 at $25 tables and tend to limit win/loss per session at $1-1.5k. On occasion, a hot shoe means a short visit of 20 minutes but usually it's 30-180 minutes and a win or loss of $1k.
The result of stop wins and other types of structuring of your sessions. If you played equal minutes or equal bet cycles while having an advantage you will win slightly more sessions than you lose. If you play until you bust out and quit when you're up $1000 you'll win the vast majority of your sessions and have a few catastrophic losses mixed in. When it's all said and done you will win what your EV says you'll win, but that's only after you get into the long run. Players structure their sessions to avoid heat or to create a certain profile in the casinos rating system. I posted about this over on Wong's site last month. You're probably better off having a higher stop win than stop loss. booking more frequent session and trip losses is the type of player profile you want to have in the casino's system. It makes it more likely the casino will write off the occasional big win as just luck when they see that they're generally making a profit on you every trip.
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