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  1. 07-05-2016, 01:48 PM #1
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    AP Heat Website - apheat.net

    I've studying hard on BS, Hi-lo, I18 and Fab 4, the I read the AP heat website and it states that card counting doesn't work. Thoughts ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21MGR View Post
    I've studying hard on BS, Hi-lo, I18 and Fab 4, the I read the AP heat website and it states that card counting doesn't work. Thoughts ?
    Of course card counting works. Where on that site does it say that it doesn't work??
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    ...and the hits just keep on coming. Please refer to post 47 On Which count is Best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21MGR View Post
    I've studying hard on BS, Hi-lo, I18 and Fab 4, the I read the AP heat website and it states that card counting doesn't work. Thoughts ?
    The more that Eliot tells this to casinos, the happier I am.
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    I could not agree more and almost felt that was the intention of Mr. Jacobson, he doesn't really say it doesn't work, more so says that it's laborious with little reward, and does point out that casino spend much too time trying to stop something that in the long run hurts them very little.


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    Hurts them very little? It actually helps them a lot. Post the HiLo count on a scoreboard above the table and watch the money flow in. In addition, think of the money saved on employing people to catch counters. Greed always wins out over common sense.
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    Lettting a few great players win big, would be the best advertisement!


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    I think what Elliot is trying to convey to the casinos that there are many things APs can do to you that you do not know as much about, so please hire me to teach you. Casinos know how to detect card counters now, so they do not need Elliot for that.
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    Thanks, I feel better now, when you get a high count and the doubles and splits work and the dealer seems to bust more, I do feel like all my efforts studying are starting to pay off, seeing the probabilities working is a great a feeling as watching the chips coming your way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 21MGR View Post
    Lettting a few great players win big, would be the best advertisement!


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    Well, not exactly. There is a big difference between a card counter and a skilled player. Actually, thus they eliminate card counters that eventually lose big with the effort to rid skilled players that win small.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21MGR View Post
    " ... the dealer seems to bust more"
    "Seems to" is correct.

    The dealer bust percentage moves VERY little.

    "Off the top" the overall dealer bust rate is 28%
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    So you saying at high counts the dealer dies not busy more often?


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    Dealer bust rate is a meaningless statistic. It varies by number of players and how the other players play.
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