What makes a true AP?

[RCJH]

Zee, I want to do the same the minute I get into a casino.

I've always loved games. My grandmother and great aunts and uncles taught me bridge as a kid, and "family game night" was a thing when my kids were little. So for me, gambling isn't the draw, rather it's the ability to do what I love, AND GET PAID FOR IT.

Here's what I do--I only play good games, and I only play well rested. If these two conditions aren't met, I practice on my phone, my iPad, my computer, or even with a deck of cards. I get my "fix" that way, without risking my bankroll.



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[BoSox]

Anyone have the feeling that at certain times someone who is being bashed, deliberately provoked the bashing in the first place, strictly for their own entertainment value? That is what I think happened in this thread. Someone who would do this on purpose, I believe is a troll with a sick agenda in mind to disrupt all the positives that are taking place. What better way to accomplish this agenda than bite the hands of the people that have been spoon feeding you for years. The content of post # 81 written by ZeeBabar, quoted below, has already been seen "although not word for word" on numerous occasions on green chip.

"Bashing on BJ forums is particularly nasty because someone or other has had a losing or frustration session or were backed off someplace. All that hostility needs to come out and a somewhat old man who is perhaps a slow or lazy learner is there to bash. I understand it. It says more about the person doing the bashing than it does me. Someone in control, Norm or Don S or a few others, simply either do not read my posts or delete it. Others seem unable to go on and take the time to knock me about. If they cannot have the discipline to simply delete, ignore or go on to another thread, I cannot see how they could be great AP's. They may be winning AP's but they are also either addicted to the forum or the game."

[BoSox]

Bashing on BJ forums is particularly nasty because someone or other has had a losing or frustration session or were backed off someplace.

ZeeBabar, here is a good tip for you, the players who actually do beat the game, DO NOT concern themselves with session loses, those are trivial matters, which take care of themselves. As far as back offs are concerned, you do the best you can to avoid this from happening, however, you should realize it is just part of the game, and you move on.

[MJGolf]

T three said some good things above. Quality of play v Quantity of play IS important though BOTH are ways to achieve AP results. I find that an AP also not only knows his body rhythms and best time to play but is able to combat those and also take advantage of the times it is most advantageous to play. I have found that if you want to take advantage of the games (on the strip in Vegas) you DON'T always play when the crowds play. Or the "peak" times. You will find that some places some think might be too high limit or unplayable become playable at certain times or if they are not crowded. For example I can name or think of two places that are quite playable at certain tables where most think the only playable conditions are in the High Limit areas, but actually at certain times they have tables with good rules at lower limits. Or they lower the limits from the high minimum tables JUST for asking or if there are not that many people playing. These conditions will not last long and vary. But you can't take advantage unless you look or are available to play them.

Also, I find that quantity of play CAN matter. I think that sometimes AP play involves "taking what you can get" if that's all you can play at moment. It's in line with Mose's signature.....and old southern saying about a "pig getting fat while a Hog get's slaughtered". Well sometimes I can find games that are positive EV at a lower betting limit (even though my bankroll might justify a higher betting unit) because that is what they will allow or tolerate. It still makes you money or is profit. Yes, would I like to bet higher? Of course, but then I may not be able to play as long or will undergo more scrutiny. If there are NOT other games around to play, then is it not AP play to profit at those lower limits? Sometimes you win ball games hitting lots of singles v. just a few home runs.

In my opinion, AP play can involve many many factors. (Sorry to get on topic and away from the Zee bashing but hey..............I was feeling philosophical)

[ZenMaster_Flash]

Yes, I agree with MJGolf

I normally play for high stakes.

The other day I was surprised

to find a good $10 game in a

rural casino without any good

high limit games. I went for it.

[MJGolf]

Norm: 'Even new players have something to contribute. Even casino employees have something to contribute. A true AP gathers info from every conceivable source.'

Quoted him from another thread. Thought it needed to be placed here because I fully agree. If you "listen" v. some who always "know" or "talk", you may get useful information from a variety of sources. Over the years, for example have learned helpful things from "newbies" who might mention something from a game that they didn't know would be helpful or from a casino employee for the same reason. Scouting or game conditions don't always have to be personally observed; you might get a hint from an unlikely source or an unintentioned assist.

[Freightman]

Yes, I agree with MJGolf

I normally play for high stakes.

The other day I was surprised

to find a good $10 game in a

rural casino without any good

high limit games. I went for it.

I know of an absolute gem of a $5 min $100 max (10-200) on the odd day they might open it that yields me more than a decent min $25 game. Incredible pen with good rules. Don't be surprised to find these games - don't ignore them.

[pilotzone]

Ethical code, are you pulling my leg, any edge that's legal, is good enough for me!


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