Ohio Gamimg Law - Theory and Practice

[Three]

Based on what law?

Title 11—DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY Division 45—Missouri Gaming Commission
Chapter 5—Conduct of Gaming
11 CSR 45-5.010 Presumption of the Right of Patrons to Participate in Gambling Games
PURPOSE: This rule establishes the general right of a patron to participate in gambling games unless such patron engages in unlaw- ful or disruptive conduct.
(1) Unless otherwise authorized by sections 313.800, RSMo et seq., as amended from time-to-time, and 11 CSR 45-1 et seq., as amended from time-to-time (collectively, the “Riverboat Gambling Act and Regulations”), no licensee may deny a patron the right to play a table game that involves playing cards and which is offered to the general public. A patron may be denied such right if the patron engages in unlawful or disruptive conduct. The licensee shall notify a commission agent prior to removing such patron.

[Three]

Notice that the issue is dealt with very specifically.

no licensee may deny a patron the right to play a table game that involves playing cards and which is offered to the general public.

Last time I checked BJ is played with playing cards.

[Boz]

Title 11—DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY Division 45—Missouri Gaming Commission
Chapter 5—Conduct of Gaming
11 CSR 45-5.010 Presumption of the Right of Patrons to Participate in Gambling Games
PURPOSE: This rule establishes the general right of a patron to participate in gambling games unless such patron engages in unlaw- ful or disruptive conduct.
(1) Unless otherwise authorized by sections 313.800, RSMo et seq., as amended from time-to-time, and 11 CSR 45-1 et seq., as amended from time-to-time (collectively, the “Riverboat Gambling Act and Regulations”), no licensee may deny a patron the right to play a table game that involves playing cards and which is offered to the general public. A patron may be denied such right if the patron engages in unlawful or disruptive conduct. The licensee shall notify a commission agent prior to removing such patron.

Well, I found the part where it says blackjack is a defined as a game of skill under the Missouri gaming regulations. It must matter for something, but I couldn't find any reason why this matters for anything.

Unfortunately, your second argument is less than compelling. Disruptive is hardly well-defined. Counting cards may be disruptive. Countermeasures, specifically authorized, is certainly disruptive. What's the root cause of this disruptive conduct? The countermeasures themselves, or the card counting that prompted them? Further, the "et seq." indicates that the rule does not apply in instances where the rules otherwise authorize departure from the PRESUMPTION (this 'right' is merely a rebuttable presumption--in other words, it's a revocable privilege.). Pertinent is the regulation I already cited in the Policies section. So, this doesn't work for me. I think they are just doing what most casinos, including Indian casinos, already do.

[Three]

Now you have to behave, if you get obnoxious they can--and will--86 you, and that would muddy the experiment.

See this is where the experiment fails. Boz obviously can't behave.

Unfortunately, your second argument is less than compelling. Disruptive is hardly well-defined. Counting cards may be disruptive. Countermeasures, specifically authorized, is certainly disruptive. What's the root cause of this disruptive conduct? The countermeasures themselves, or the card counting that prompted them? Further, the "et seq." indicates that the rule does not apply in instances where the rules otherwise authorize departure from the PRESUMPTION (this 'right' is merely a rebuttable presumption--in other words, it's a revocable privilege.). Pertinent is the regulation I already cited in the Policies section. So, this doesn't work for me. I think they are just doing what most casinos, including Indian casinos, already do.

To make it easy for the legally challenged. It says you can't be denied access for how you play but only for things unrelated to your play. It is absolutely clear to any sane, reasonably intelligent person. Just don't break the law or be disruptive (poor conduct) and they have to let you have access to all card games. Your attitude of just twisting things to the absurd to keep from learning something is going to get you on my ignore list. I don't think any current posters are on my ignore list. Trolls and disruptive people have gotten there in the past. Usually they either leave the site voluntarily or get banned.