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    Quote Originally Posted by Romes View Post
    "Yeah, but which BATHROOM does he use???"
    W T F ? Are you from North Carolina or from a distant galaxy ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romes View Post
    Yeah, but which BATHROOM does he use???
    LOL. I don't care what people say about TG rights. If Joan Rivers' corpse follows me into the bathroom, I'm contacting security. And Rick Grimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boz View Post
    If Joan Rivers' corpse follows me into the bathroom, I'm contacting security.
    I hate when that happens.

    BTW, ran headlong into her once trying to go through the same door at the same time at the DI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    "Don, please be kind with your corrections to my use of the language."

    Language was fine, thank you. Wondering if the Boss is Jerry Patterson!

    Don

    What! Did Don miss a typo?

    Some of the troubling issues in the text where things like basic strategy errors,

    "where" should be "were"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    What! Did Don miss a typo?

    Some of the troubling issues in the text where things like basic strategy errors,

    "where" should be "were"
    OMG say it is not so!!! He gave me a clean bill of health and I trusted it without reservation.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Don, you mention Jerry Patterson and are obviously referring to the TARGET system, which I heard bits and pieces stating it was pure voodoo with recommendations such as playing at a table with full ashtrays for some reason. I have no intimate familiarity with it at all other than hearing the generalization that "the method is beyond the mathematics of the game", which puts it into beautiful downtown Nonsenseland right then and there but could you elaborate on your knowledge of any of the gory details of what has defined it as bogus? This "Charlie's angels of blackjack" thread seems like an appropriate place as any to bring up things that just don't look quite right.

    Just how good are the Charlie's Angels of Blackjack? Can they count their way out of a wet paper bag? Can they look down to count their tits and come up with the same number twice in a row? Something I've seen over the years on occasion are people that think they are a whole lot better at blackjack than what they really are. An interesting study from Cornell University confirms some of this, see attached link. Can you add some glitz, some glamor and provide a smokescreen for a lack of actual skill? Can you actually tell people that ashtrays mean anything at all because their knowledge base is insufficient to confirm differently?


    http://psych.colorado.edu/~vanboven/...er_dunning.pdf
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    As my father in law likes to say -- some people don't know what they don't know.

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    The book was mostly unreadable drivel. A waste of my space on my Kindle. At least it was "free" through my Kindle Extra or whatever the service is called.

    I gave up in the chapter in which one of the girls apparently slept with the team "bodyguard" and two of them saw ghosts in their hotel rooms. Yes, it was really that stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LVBear584 View Post

    I gave up in the chapter in which one of the girls apparently slept with the team "bodyguard" and two of them saw ghosts in their hotel rooms. Yes, it was really that stupid.
    LOL. I never for one second thought this book would contain one iota of useful information. But I'm starting to think it might be the best-selling BJ book to date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzan View Post
    Something I've seen over the years on occasion are people that think they are a whole lot better at blackjack than what they really are. An interesting study from Cornell University confirms some of this, see attached link.

    http://psych.colorado.edu/~vanboven/...er_dunning.pdf
    Good article. In my profession (CPA), I often judge a staff member's stage of development and/or career potential by where they stand on this continuum:

    1) unconsciously incompetent, 2) consciously incompetent, 3) consciously competent, 4) unconsciously competent.

    The article basically says that those that are at the lowest level ("unconsciously incompetent") tend to remain in that state because they don't have the cognitive abilities to realize their incompetence. The only way out is to have a teacher that can deliver the appropriate negative feedback and a student that has the humility and teachability to receive it. NOT EASY...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdaddy View Post
    Good article. In my profession (CPA), I often judge a staff member's stage of development and/or career potential by where they stand on this continuum:

    1) unconsciously incompetent, 2) consciously incompetent, 3) consciously competent, 4) unconsciously competent.

    The article basically says that those that are at the lowest level ("unconsciously incompetent") tend to remain in that state because they don't have the cognitive abilities to realize their incompetence. The only way out is to have a teacher that can deliver the appropriate negative feedback and a student that has the humility and teachability to receive it. NOT EASY...
    I like this thought and my experience tends to confirm its accuracy. Very simple, but powerful, understanding of a strategic requirement for success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdaddy View Post
    1) unconsciously incompetent, 2) consciously incompetent, 3) consciously competent, 4) unconsciously competent.
    I like that progression. But, I'm competently unconscious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdaddy View Post
    Good article. In my profession (CPA), I often judge a staff member's stage of development and/or career potential by where they stand on this continuum:

    1) unconsciously incompetent, 2) consciously incompetent, 3) consciously competent, 4) unconsciously competent.

    The article basically says that those that are at the lowest level ("unconsciously incompetent") tend to remain in that state because they don't have the cognitive abilities to realize their incompetence. The only way out is to have a teacher that can deliver the appropriate negative feedback and a student that has the humility and teachability to receive it. NOT EASY...
    Only someone as consciously competent as me could have been roasted as bad as I was yesterday - such is the nature of the beast.

    A few weeks ago, I was playing a $25 min game. The unconscious incompetent sitting next to me was needling me all night, criticizing my doubles as well as my index plays. Of course, I said nothing. He did not take advantage of his doubles, stating he had lost heavily the prior few days, and dud not want go put more money at risk - go figure. His basic stunk, though he thought ut was above par. Meanwhile, as his stack of chips and continual buyins stiffened the tray, like a viagra pill, tray pressure was relieved, as evidenced by the mounds of green and black in front of me, contributing to my personal AP relief fund. He may have been moderately successful in other endeavours, as losses needed to be supported from some source - possibly.

    I think a category that may have been overlooked, and likely not researched, is the incompetent competent. This would describe my wife's brother. Forty years ago, he made great money. Problem was it mostly went up his nose. Today, he is a conspiracy theorist man of the land. What a waste of life. All the brains in the world gone up in powder. He is not welcome at my house.

    I think an interesting cross reference study would be competence level by attitude. It really does take all kinds to make this world. I'm out of town right now. I enjoyed a deluxe type of full continental breakfast this morning. The older bus lady, noting no toast, commented to me that there was a toaster at the far end if the buffet. I responded that I knew that, that my back was very sore, and that it would hurt me to make the toast, stand while waiting and return. With a most pleasant attitude, she asked what I wanted, further ask g what would be preferable jam, and got it for me. N my view, this was an xcellent example of superior and friendly attitude. I slipped her, specifically, a $5 tip, over and above the normal table gratuity for the actual server bringing coffee around.

    Let us salute both the conscious and unconscious incompetents - for it is they that support our activities.

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