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    Quote Originally Posted by ajporrasm View Post
    I too am a little confused by some indices.

    I see Norm’s cvdata online index viewer for double down on 8 v 6 is TC >= 2:

    https://www.card-counting.com/cvcxonlineviewer3.htm

    Wong’s index in professional blackjack is 1 for dd 8 v 6


    Other differences include
    Double down 8 v 5 Wong: 3 Norm: 4
    Double down 8 v 4 Wong: 5 Norm: 6
    Hard hit 16 v 9 Wong: 5 Norm:4
    Hard hit 12 v 6 Wong:0 Norm:-1

    The 12 v 6 index of 0 surprised me the most since I’m used to using Norm’s -1 for that one.

    The cvdata calculations there are for S17 6D DAS LS, and the site mentions it’s using half deck estimations and flooring.

    Wong’s book mentions indices were calculated for S17 4D and truncated. I wasn’t sure if these were half deck or full deck estimations.

    Since these are differences on indices that aren’t negative, except 12 v 6, are Norm’s considered the correct values here since they’re more specifically tailored?

    Sorry to dig up the old post but I couldn’t find an answer and also have been wanting to know
    Norm's indices are correct (deck estimations to the nearest half). The only difference we have is in 16v9.
    In this case, you should surrender at a floored index of -1. If surrender is not allowed then you should stand at a floored index of +5.

    Sincerely,
    Cac

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajporrasm View Post
    That’s interesting, I haven’t heard of the use of a specific index affecting a different index. Where could I find reading material on that if you don’t mind sharing?
    Patience; the definitive work on all of this is coming. ...

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cacarulo View Post
    Norm's indices are correct (deck estimations to the nearest half). The only difference we have is in 16v9.
    In this case, you should surrender at a floored index of -1. If surrender is not allowed then you should stand at a floored index of +5.

    Sincerely,
    Cac
    Thanks cac, I’ll continue to use Norm’s as before then

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Patience; the definitive work on all of this is coming. ...

    Don
    Sounds like quite the piece of work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajporrasm View Post
    Sounds like quite the piece of work!
    You can't imagine. More details coming in a little while.

    Don

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