Why not use a bet progression?

[Nogumby]

I feel that a positive betting progression or a (controled) negative progression has numerious benifits. At the very least changing up your bets with a progression will give you cover for counting. And every shoe has a trend because of the flow of different value cards and the rate of change of the count, so basing your bet soley on the count can hurt (for example a high count tanking to fast so you end up losing most of your large bets). Also, why not take advantage of a winning or losing streak to maximize session outcome.

With keeping an open mind does anybody else with knowledge of this game agree with any of this.

[Three]

Maximizing your session outcome is betting optimally. In other words betting with the count.

[Nogumby]

The count is important, but.... my focus is on maxamizing profit during winning individual sessions and keeping losing sessions at a minimum. The count is only one tool I use to do this. To increase your bet only on the count and wait for the laws of average catch up to your statistical advantage will limit your true profit potential.

[forecast rain]

I feel that a positive betting progression or a (controled) negative progression has numerious benifits. At the very least changing up your bets with a progression will give you cover for counting. And every shoe has a trend because of the flow of different value cards and the rate of change of the count, so basing your bet soley on the count can hurt (for example a high count tanking to fast so you end up losing most of your large bets). Also, why not take advantage of a winning or losing streak to maximize session outcome.

With keeping an open mind does anybody else with knowledge of this game agree with any of this.

Winning or Losing streak? What does this really mean and how do you ever define the point at which they will occur?

My point is that if you want to maximize session outcomes then disregard a safe bet spread and flucuate between table min and table max bets when the TC is 0 and +1. Simulation software will open your eyes to blackjack outcomes.

[Gamblor]

I would generally recommend never bet table max.

[forecast rain]

I would generally recommend never bet table max.

I'm not recommending it, but its fact that if you want to maximize a sessions outcome you would bet the table max at all True Counts greater than or equal to 1.

[Aslan]

I'm not recommending it, but its fact that if you want to maximize a sessions outcome you would bet the table max at all True Counts greater than or equal to 1.

Theoretically, yes, but if you think you have trouble with heat now, just try betting table max! lol I have a gambler friend whose betting pattern is to spread to table max within his first three bets. He drives pit critters crazy, since he always represents a serious threat to the house. As a dyed in the wool gambler, he does not want to win a modest sum, he goes for the motherlode. He loses a lot, to be sure, but when he wins, it's something to celebrate about. Too bad he doesn't have advantage skills.

[Nogumby]

A winning or losing streak can only be quantified after it is over. You can never predict when it is over. However, if you agree streaks are always happening, you can net out a positive outcome if you respect them.

[forecast rain]

A winning or losing streak can only be quantified after it is over. You can never predict when it is over. However, if you agree streaks are always happening, you can net out a positive outcome if you respect them.

If you are seeking advice, then bet optimally with a pre-set bet spread. If you are trying to convince competent counters about a positive betting progress on a feeling, its not going to happen. I do applaud your desire to create greater returns with current systems that you are using, but understand the direction you initially spoke on about betting progression will not give you what you are seeking.

[Nogumby]

Thanks for your objectivity. But I think there is nothing 100% random in stastics, so there is more to making more profit than betting optimally with a pre-set spread. Please do not get me wrong it is a pleasure see there are people who know this game so well. In the late 80's I crushed east coast casinos, yes even had to change my look to continue playing. Then the count was the advantage. Now I think you have to use other tools and hit and run at a brick and morter casino.

[Aslan]

If you are seeking advice, then bet optimally with a pre-set bet spread. If you are trying to convince competent counters about a positive betting progress on a feeling, its not going to happen. I do applaud your desire to create greater returns with current systems that you are using, but understand the direction you initially spoke on about betting progression will not give you what you are seeking.

Totally agree. What is meant by an optimal betting spread is just that. Any deviation from the optimal bet is a money loser in the long run, whether it be a negative or positive progression, or just a different wager.

[21gunsalute]

A winning or losing streak can only be quantified after it is over. You can never predict when it is over. However, if you agree streaks are always happening, you can net out a positive outcome if you respect them.

So respect is the magic fairy dust that makes progressions work. I'll try to remember that and bow, kneel and pray to the magic fairy dust progression god the next time I play a progression.

[Nogumby]

Hey I did it last night but I used pixi dust and clicked my heels. Only Kidding 21gunsalute, but I think card counting and mm is only part of the solution .