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  • Offer advice that benefits me, whether asked or not

    2 3.64%
  • offer advice that benefits me only when asked

    4 7.27%
  • Offer proper advice whether asked or not

    1 1.82%
  • Offer proper advice only when asked.

    32 58.18%
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Thread: advice at the tables

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    The evil dealers will call it a ten not a soft twenty. the one I liked was the dealer that hit his soft 21 because he called it 11. Then if someone points it out you get into the hand was over-you can't back up the cards argument with the PB.
    I had an inexperienced dealer do this to their own hand when I was playing one-on-one and had a two-handed max bet out. The dealer pulled a 10 and still had 21 but I called the pit over and saved both of my bets because of the misdeal. Of course, I'd have kept my mouth shut if the dealer had subsequently busted or hit to a favorable pat hand.

    Regarding the OP, I only offer advice when asked and tend to do as Aslan suggested: I'll typically offer proper BS play but temper it with the statement that it's their money and that they should do what feels right to them.

    In that way, I've helped them while letting them know that I'm okay with any decision they make - since ploppies often ask the question to avoid table wrath if the cards don't fall as planned. I'm also avoiding blame if the decision goes against them since the ball remains in their court.

    If it's a common index play I'll instead say something like, "Wow, that's a tough one. It just depends on how you feel." That avoids any issues when my play changes later on. I might weakly suggest the right play if the circumstances warrant and allow without risk.

    I won't deliberately give incorrect advice either to get rid of the ploppy or to help myself. That's a moral line I'm not willing to cross. I always root for the ploppies against the casino - even when I'm wonging out and letting them take the negative cards. lol.
    Last edited by AP2win; 12-17-2012 at 08:23 PM.

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    If asked for help
    A BS play and it helps you why not?
    and/or to speed up game

    An indice or aggressive indice be careful in offering advice, your showing your skill to a sharp staff, but lack of skill to a dull staff.

    Careful helping a big player. If your being watched and help the big player casino staff may act against you. Though he may toss you a chip.

    To offer advice that only you benefit from will earn more, unless you believe in Karma. However, in poker you take from others.

    Civilians can also benefit from another positive round being dealt so on borderline plays preserve cards

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack avenger View Post
    Careful helping a big player. If your being watched and help the big player casino staff may act against you.
    Ha If the pit even knows what the correct plays are!

    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack avenger View Post
    An indice or aggressive indice be careful in offering advice, your showing your skill to a sharp staff, but lack of skill to a dull staff.
    Wouldn't even think of offering advanced play advice at the tables. Why not carry a sign around your neck: "Advantage Player?"

    The main thing is to stay focused on what you came to do, that is, play well and beat the house. You don't need all these other distractions unless you can fit them into your game plan with relative ease. I don't know anything about karma, but if you play badly it will likely have it's consequences.

    Aslan 11/1/90 - 6/15/10 Stormy 1/22/95 - 8/23/10... “Life’s most urgent question is: what are you doing for others?” — Martin Luther King, Jr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    Ha If the pit even knows what the correct plays are!

    Wouldn't even think of offering advanced play advice at the tables. Why not carry a sign around your neck: "Advantage Player?"

    The main thing is to stay focused on what you came to do, that is, play well and beat the house. You don't need all these other distractions unless you can fit them into your game plan with relative ease. I don't know anything about karma, but if you play badly it will likely have it's consequences.
    Point 1 and 2 you seem to contradict yourself. Influencing other players can be very important to EV

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack avenger View Post
    Point 1 and 2 you seem to contradict yourself. Influencing other players can be very important to EV
    No contradiction. When you can work "influencing other players" into your overall game plan with relative ease, then go for it, but don't let these opportunities actually work against you if they become too much of a distraction. Sometimes, it's all I can do to chew gum and keep the count; maybe I should cut back on the chewing gum?

    Aslan 11/1/90 - 6/15/10 Stormy 1/22/95 - 8/23/10... “Life’s most urgent question is: what are you doing for others?” — Martin Luther King, Jr.

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