More advanced instruction on Advantage Play

[Stealth]

It would seem our friend at APHEAT is spreading the love.

http://www.cdcgamingseminars.com/sem...antageplay.php

While this type of offering seems to be of little help to our cause, Elliot has voiced his view of card counting and the damage it does (or does not) to casinos. His view, like Zender's, is a pragmatic business case that the cost of protection from card counters is more than the losses would be.

So, if this is part of spreading the love, then maybe it helps a little.

Your thoughts?

[Romes]

It's been well known, discussed, and established that casinos BURN money trying to stop counters when in fact 99% of the population doesn't count and then 1% of counters actually have a winning game.

I just hope if they "listen" to Elliot on other things they'll listen to him on this. Cut the shoes deep, keep the game going, and make more money not caring about counters on non-black chip tables.

[Norm]

His view, like Zender's, is a pragmatic business case that the cost of protection from card counters is more than the losses would be.

By coincidence, I just got an e-mail from the Z-Man 90 minutes ago. He says that in 2010, 25% of strip games were 6:5. Something like 40% now.

[Romes]

...He says that in 2010, 25% of strip games were 6:5. Something like 40% now.

Wow, somehow I didn't realize this number was even that high in 2010. I guess I didn't really take notice until a few years ago.

[Freightman]

By coincidence, I just got an e-mail from the Z-Man 90 minutes ago. He says that in 2010, 25% of strip games were 6:5. Something like 40% now.

Would be interesting if this could be broken down by table min.

[Romes]

Would be interesting if this could be broken down by table min.

Using the Wiz's blackjack survey I don't see any 6:5 house edge percentages until a couple sprinkle in at min bet $15. $10 and under is where you see them really take over.

[Norm]

Looks like about 63 in the Vegas area are $25 tables. I think Bell@gio has a $25 6:5 table. Sad.

[txlouder]

It would seem our friend at APHEAT is spreading the love.
...
So, if this is part of spreading the love, then maybe it helps a little.

Your thoughts?

On balance I think Eliot (single 'l') is doing far more harm than good. That he instructs the darkside on techniques and counter-measures is clearly NG. That he (correctly) opines that counter-measures against low stakes counters are counter-productive is no recompense. Zender has been saying that for years and few or none are listening.

-TX

[moo321]

Zender and Jacobsen telling casinos not to cut off 2 decks is good for everyone in the business. Casinos, counters, advanced players, it's good for everyone (except ploppies).

This seminar is not so good for us, and it's why I hate Jacobsen. He's essentially stealing secrets he received in confidence and selling them to the highest bidder, to the direct detriment of the people who trained him. He was a hack (by his own admission, not a good AP), so he learned some of the moves, and now he's selling them for under $200.

[RWM]

Currently on the Las Vegas strip there are more 6-5 than 3-2. This is from this years BJ Ball.

True or False? According to the latest issue of CBJN, including all shoe games, CSM’s, Double Deck and Single Deck Games, there are now more 6:5 than Full Play Standard Blackjack games on the Las Vegas Strip—from the Stratosphere to Mandalay Bay.

It’s not even close. There are only 398 Full Pay Regular Blackjack
Games left on the Las Vegas Strip, and those same casinos now have 682 6:5 games which they gleefully offer to the mullets….er….most valued guests…. to make sure they can gut them as fast as humanly possible, and the answer to seven is True. Which kinda makes you wonder how the folks running the joints in Nevada wonder why they don’t make quite as much money as they did in the Golden Years.

[FalseCount]

Looks like about 63 in the Vegas area are $25 tables. I think Bell@gio has a $25 6:5 table. Sad.

It's funny, Bellagio also has a $50 S17 LS RSA table right in the main pit, as good as any table you can hope to find on the strip. That extra $25 can really get you a lot of value.