What's your best dealer error?

**Bigdaddy** · 02-17-2016, 06:30 PM

My best mispay was actually at the craps table a few years back. The action was hot and heavy. I had every box number loaded with come bets and max odds. The shooter could do no wrong. The roll comes out 5 (fever 5). I had a $50 come bet with $200 odds stacked on top. Off and on should have paid $350. I have no idea what was going through the dealer's mind, but he threw $550 at me (a purple and 2 greens). I scooped it up and just kept going. It's definitely bad karma at the craps table if you do anything to slow down a hot shooter...

RS · 02-17-2016, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

It's definitely bad karma at the craps table if you do anything to slow down a hot shooter...

Aha -- I like that one.

**AndretheGiant** · 02-17-2016, 07:42 PM

Had a $100 bet on the ante in 3cp and got paid 3k for 3of a kind.Dealer was confused since I wasn't playing pair plus.

**moo321** · 02-18-2016, 06:09 PM

Totally forgot about craps. I had a dealer paying pass odds on don't odds bets.

So, 6 to 5 on a 6 instead of 5 to 6.

Game was literally a $1 minimum, and I was afraid to "wake him up," or wake up the floor or surveillance by jumping my bet a lot (and having them realize I had been mispaid a LOT), so I played for about an hour until they closed the game down.

I'm guessing it's about a 10% edge on the action with 3-4-5x odds.

RS · 02-18-2016, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by moo321

Totally forgot about craps. I had a dealer paying pass odds on don't odds bets.

So, 6 to 5 on a 6 instead of 5 to 6.

Game was literally a $1 minimum, and I was afraid to "wake him up," or wake up the floor or surveillance by jumping my bet a lot (and having them realize I had been mispaid a LOT), so I played for about an hour until they closed the game down.

I'm guessing it's about a 10% edge on the action with 3-4-5x odds.

Wow, that's pretty strong.

I saw a craps dealer paying even money on all lay bets (not quite as good as paying PL odds)....boss got suspicious when every player on that side was laying every number....every roll.

If I did the math correctly, I'm getting about a 38% advantage for what moo described. But, I'm not feeling too strong on that answer -- plus, I didn't want to spend any considerable amount of time figuring out what the edge is. Something like that -- you don't need to know what your edge is -- you just hit it as hard as you can.

**Masterhoudini** · 02-19-2016, 12:00 AM

I know I'm the minority since I actually point out dealer mispays if I notice them. I'm weird like that, I guess it's a personal integrity issue. In one recent event I was automatically paid 1k on my 20 vs a dealer 13 as he forgot to pull another card. I reminded him and I ended up pushing the hand. I knew I could have gotten away with it though as he was already sweeping the cards.

Best dealer error that worked out was when I had 6k on the table last hand of the shoe with garbage splits and doubles and insurance vs. dealer ace. Dealer had no blackjack and accidentally pulled out 3 cards from the shoe and the order was mixed up. They were supposed to be 2,3, and 4 in that order. Dealer had A underneath which would have been a total disaster for me pulling to 21. Luckily because of the multiple card pull, the hand was burnt and I even got to keep my insurance!

**Three** · 02-19-2016, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by Masterhoudini

In one recent event I was automatically paid 1k on my 20 vs a dealer 13 as he forgot to pull another card. I reminded him and I ended up pushing the hand. I knew I could have gotten away with it though as he was already sweeping the cards.

I hope you were playing solo. The other players probably would want to lynch you if there were any. It is bad form to correct dealer errors that affect others at the table negatively.

**CHAM** · 02-19-2016, 06:37 AM

I had that happen in LV at a Stations Casino, I had stood on a hand and the dealer ended up making Her hand, She just went into auto pilot mode and payed every hand on the table, the Guy to My left just looked at Me. I thought if You rat Me out I am punching You as hard as I can. LOL

**Three** · 02-19-2016, 06:50 AM

Not the biggest dealer error but my favorite. I was playing and was doing well with a huge count so I put out a tip on each hand for the dealer on my supermax bet. I get a BJ and the dealer has an ace up. I insure with a bet equal to 1 bet on the line between my bets and 1 bet for the dealer. The dealer has a BJ and gets chips out to pay my insurance bets the dealer gleefully bangs the chips and drops them in the tip box probably never having won an insurance bet. The turns around a sweeps the cards without taking anyones bets off the table. Either everyone did the best collective act I have ever seen or they just didn't notice. I am glad MH wasn't there. LoL

The biggest dealer error I had was a dealer that kept busting with an ace. He usually didn't deal BJ and his entire shift if he pulled an ace for himself he counted it as 11 and busted. I played out his shift and upped my ramp in an on the fly calculation of what it was worth and collected on every bet with the higher ramp and every time the dealer pulled an ace and used it as a bust card. So 6 hours of dealer errors that basically paid on every hand. The beauty is I don't think they could ask for the money back. They are required by law to complete the hands and could be fined $10K per incident.

**Freightman** · 02-19-2016, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Tthree

I hope you were playing solo. The other players probably would want to lynch you if there were any. It is bad form to correct dealer errors that affect others at the table negatively.

I'm pretty certain MH is referring only to errors pertains to MH.

**Three** · 02-19-2016, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by Freightman

I'm pretty certain MH is referring only to errors pertains to MH.

When the dealer pays at 13 and then is corrected to make a 20 it affects everyone that doesn't have a 21. Are you saying MH must have been playing solo? The answer to that question is the crux of my post.

**Halbruno** · 02-19-2016, 08:53 AM

GO SCG! 10 hour session? Wow!

I placed a $50 bet on red at a roulette table. Two other players also crowded the box leaving the black box empty. A few players played just a few numbers. The wheel spun out a black. The dealer paid all the bets on red as he was oogling a cute girl in front of me. He then paid the numbers, pulled up the marker, and I took the money and ran! The floor supervisor stood right behind him and never said a word!

Another time I placed a $50 bet on the first and second dozen. The dealer went on break and was replaced by a younger dealer who is somewhat known for poor eyesight. The ball falls on the second dozen. A winner! He paid the second dozen and then paid the first dozen bet too! Everyone stood in disbelief. No one said anything. I waited for him to catch on. He pulled the marker away, I collected my chips and walked to another pit!

**Freightman** · 02-19-2016, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Tthree

When the dealer pays at 13 and then is corrected to make a 20 it affects everyone that doesn't have a 21. Are you saying MH must have been playing solo? The answer to that question is the crux of my post.

MH made no reference to anyone else at the table - simply referring to player 20 v dealer 13. I think a normal person would conclude that MH was in fact, playing solo.

I suppose MH could have clarified every possible contingency, which I think defeats the purpose. To do so would be a waste if bandwidth, would lead one to conclude that MH thinks of everyone as an idiot, which I don't think is true, and would further increase the length of post to something matching one of yours - no offence intended. If everyone did that, nobody would ever get anything done.