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    Dealer's mistake

    With a deuce and a four against an eight, I hit and received an ace. The dealer announced "18".

    I repeated out loud "18" and stood. Three witnesses at the table. The dealer stood on 17. Then while paying, he obviously realized his mistake and paid me anyway.

    The other players did not realize what happened.

    Now, if the dealer had decided to push instead, and the other players agreed the dealer announced 18 could I have called the PB over it and what were my chances of getting paid based on a totalling mistake made by the dealer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DatabaseGuy View Post
    With a deuce and a four against an eight, I hit and received an ace. The dealer announced "18".

    I repeated out loud "18" and stood. Three witnesses at the table. The dealer stood on 17. Then while paying, he obviously realized his mistake and paid me anyway.

    The other players did not realize what happened.

    Now, if the dealer had decided to push instead, and the other players agreed the dealer announced 18 could I have called the PB over it and what were my chances of getting paid based on a totalling mistake made by the dealer?
    Nope

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    You would only get the bet paid if the Floor was feeling generous. That often happens if they like you. It is your responsibility to keep track of your hand total and they have every right not to pay you. They can only do so much but I have persuaded some Suits to go further than their initial proposal. They will tell you what they can't do when they make their ruling. It helps to know just what is within their power because they won't tell you that. If you propose something they can do after their initial ruling sometimes they will agree.

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    I have noticed that a lot of dealers simply pay out their mistakes & I've also noticed if I TIP their mistakes they mysteriously make more!! But the PB should rule to your favor in that instance. Probably won't, but should.

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    The Pit Critter is supposed to ...

    Tell you that YOU are responsible for knowing the total of your cards,
    and then, before you can react, inform you that the "cards speak"
    and pay you. If the dealer's mis_calling your total led you to MISPLAY
    your hand (as you had a basic strategy HIT) then you'd be paid.

    If you were "shooting an angle" i.e. claiming you were going to play
    bizarrely, like hitting a Hards 18 vs. a dealer Face Card, you'd paint
    yourself as a creep that nobody wants in the casino.

    The dealer had a hard 17 ~ you "deserved" the push and that is what you'd get.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dharmaprija View Post
    " ... if I TIP their mistakes they mysteriously make more!"
    You do NOT toke the dealer immediately after an error made in your favor.

    It leads to suspicion of collusion.

    Not good for you, and not good for the dealer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    You do NOT toke the dealer immediately after an error made in your favor.

    It leads to suspicion of collusion.

    Not good for you, and not good for the dealer.
    I strongly agree with this. Handling dealer errors correctly is a very important part of play. Personally I like to tip a fraction between 25% and 50% of any errors made in my favor after my next blackjack. I was recently playing with a moderately sized bet and was given a 16 v. dealer Ace. I had been chatting and being friendly with the dealer prior to this, and immediately signaled to surrender. The dealer checked the ace and gave me half my bet, then flipped it over revealing a 10 under. We both looked at it and he said "weird," then we continued play as normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DatabaseGuy View Post
    With a deuce and a four against an eight, I hit and received an ace. The dealer announced "18".

    I repeated out loud "18" and stood. Three witnesses at the table. The dealer stood on 17. Then while paying, he obviously realized his mistake and paid me anyway.

    The other players did not realize what happened.

    Now, if the dealer had decided to push instead, and the other players agreed the dealer announced 18 could I have called the PB over it and what were my chances of getting paid based on a totalling mistake made by the dealer?
    What would you have said if the dealer said 22 and bust? It does not matter what the dealer says. Cards play.

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    With my max bet out, dealer has a 6, turns over an Ace, another Ace, then hits it with an 8 calls out 16, hits and busts. As he went for the 8, the ploppie started saying "wait", I said " correct, now let us bust". The ploppie gathered her money, gave me a look of disgust and walked off. Dealer looks at me, says "what's with that?', lol.

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