Thoughts on supervisors who double as dealers (or vice versa)?

[The Suburbs]

At a store I play regularly at (and what I've noticed at other casinos around the country), it's not uncommon to see the same employee of the casino as a pit supervisor or dealer at different times.

My question, for the folks who have more experience, is what is your standard operating procedure for this type of situation? Since supervisors are usually the ones who get the ball rolling for skills checks/back-offs, is it best to avoid playing at their tables when they're dealing? Obviously it's harder for them to identify you as an AP when supervising (since they have other things to do as well), but since they've most likely received some type of AP informational training as pit supervisors, wouldn't it be much easier for them to spot you as a dealer? Should you actively try and only expose your play to one side of their job (e.g. only play in their pit when they're supervising and never play with them as a dealer, or vice versa)?

Thoughts?

[mofungoo]

I'd say be careful. A dual rate might decide that backing off APs is the best way to climb the corporate ladder. Just avoid them as a cautionary measure.

[21forme]

In my experience, dual rates are the best as they really don't know anything about working in the pit. Also, they despise doing so, because they don't make tips.

[blacksheep]

I would say it probably depends on the person and how well you know them. If you don't know anything about them other than the fact that they're a dual rate then it's probably best to avoid their tables when their dealing. This is what I generally do, but I know of a couple dual rates that I have been playing with and around for a long time that I don't mind playing with at all. These people know what I'm doing (it's generally common knowledge I think at this place anyway) and have no problem with it. But I have some common ground with them too, having discovered over time that we grew up in the same city and around the same people (we're about the same age). We probably lived just a few blocks from each other. Plus they are those rare birds that are actually active players themselves, and I'm pretty sure one of them is a counter too, though we've never discussed this openly. People like this may be more a help than a detriment to you.

[decimus]

In my experience, dual rates are the best as they really don't know anything about working in the pit. Also, they despise doing so, because they don't make tips.

I don't think this is accurate. They are typically people trying to move up, if their focus was on the tips they would stay dealing. However when they are dealing, they are not worried about the duties of supervising, they are simply more worried about filling their box then how you play.