Dealer Skills

**FerrisB** · 01-09-2016, 08:14 PM

Hey all. What do you do if a dealer really struggles shuffling the cards. I was playing earlier today and the dealer would clump cards as she shuffled. Instead if every card or couple of cards merging during the shuffle, I observed as much as 1/4 being clumped together during every couple of shuffles. Does it have any impact on the cards?

FerrisB

**ZenMaster_Flash** · 01-09-2016, 08:40 PM

As an A.P. I would be betting 1/2 table max (X 2) -- when shuffle-tracking opportunities arose.

**FerrisB** · 01-09-2016, 08:50 PM

Shuffle tracking is not a skill I have in my tool box yet.

**Three** · 01-09-2016, 09:00 PM

When the shuffle is that bad you don't need all the formulas. Just look for clumps of aces, clumps of T's and clumps of low cards. Then watch were they go.

**Ryemo** · 01-09-2016, 10:28 PM

Agree with T3 and ZMF. This isn't a bad thing. If anything, you can use this knowledge to your advantage.

**Blitzkrieg** · 01-10-2016, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by FerrisB

Hey all. What do you do if a dealer really struggles shuffling the cards. I was playing earlier today and the dealer would clump cards as she shuffled. Instead if every card or couple of cards merging during the shuffle, I observed as much as 1/4 being clumped together during every couple of shuffles. Does it have any impact on the cards?

FerrisB

You humiliate the dealer at the table in front of everyone when this happens. That is what you do! You need to poke fun at the dealer to get them to make even more mistakes. You embarrass the dealer and lambaste them. You may even have to call the pit boss over to your table and then humiliate the dealer in front of his/her boss. Tell the pit boss by saying, "Your dealer is a disgrace to the game and that I could do a better job!" By showing them and telling the pit what you think of their dealer. If you don't want to use that route of embarrassing the dealer then you say nothing if you can get a good attempt at tracking a slug of cards where you think key cards my lie.

**Norm** · 01-10-2016, 12:12 PM

No way do you call this to attention of the pit. Although, I don't see how they couldn't know.

**Blitzkrieg** · 01-10-2016, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Norm

No way do you call this to attention of the pit. Although, I don't see how they couldn't know.

I understand your point but I would do it if I wanted to embarrass the house as one of their guests to let them know that one of their team members is not up to par and needs more training. If the pit boss is doing their job then they should not have a sloppy dealer hit the floor to represent them.

**Ryemo** · 01-10-2016, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg

I understand your point but I would do it if I wanted to embarrass the house as one of their guests to let them know that one of their team members is not up to par and needs more training. If the pit boss is doing their job then they should not have a sloppy dealer hit the floor to represent them.

I don't understand how embarrassing the dealer or calling attention to the pit will accomplish anything? The dealer's sloppy technique could possibly be used to your advantage. Why would you want to call attention to this?

**ZenMaster_Flash** · 01-10-2016, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg

" ...I wanted to embarrass the house as one of their guests to let them know that one of their team members is not up to par and needs more training. If the pit boss is doing their job then they should not have a sloppy dealer hit the floor to represent them."

A Pit Critter [or a Pit Boss] has no real vested interest in customer relations.
You would just generate "bad blood." The Pit Bosses, etc. started as dealers,
so they will empathize with the dealer being criticized !

**Tarzan** · 01-10-2016, 01:18 PM

I like the idea of avoiding attention and quietly assessing if anything the dealer is doing can be in any way advantageous to you. Take it easy on the hired help, Blitzkrieg! Unless you wish to live up to your name with a scorched earth policy, that is. Chances are you will have future dealings with them if you are a full time player. If anything, I try to be friendly to casino personnel, regardless of position or level of competence. I would rather avoid attention, especially negative attention so the dealers and pits memory of me was more like a gentle wind passing through, all a blur... this makes a lot of sense, especially if you've played against the vast majority of all blackjack dealers in an entire area.

**Bodarc** · 01-10-2016, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg

to let them know that one of their team members is not up to par and needs more training.

Blitz, the last thing I would do is point out to mgmt that one of their team members is below par. I want them below par and look for that kind of dealer constantly.