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    Stand or double?

    In a 6 deck DAS H17 game, I have been doubling A7 vs dealer 2.
    I just saw a strategy sheet that agrees with all my other
    strategies, except for A7 vs 2, which says stand.
    Anybody have any maths for one versus the other?

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    BJInfo.com says double. https://www.blackjackinfo.com/blackj...rr=ns&peek=yes

    What strategy sheet were you looking at?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbjsabu View Post
    In a 6 deck DAS H17 game, I have been doubling A7 vs dealer 2.
    I just saw a strategy sheet that agrees with all my other
    strategies, except for A7 vs 2, which says stand.
    Anybody have any maths for one versus the other?
    Double True +1 - some strategy engines will say 0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollingStoned View Post
    BJInfo.com says double. https://www.blackjackinfo.com/blackj...rr=ns&peek=yes

    What strategy sheet were you looking at?
    I have been using info out of "The Theory of Blackjack"
    by Peter Griffin. The strategy sheet I found that was
    different is at blackjack-trainer.net

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Double True +1 - some strategy engines will say 0.
    I am not counting, if that's what you mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbjsabu View Post
    I am not counting, if that's what you mean.
    Then stand

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    It also has A,8v6 labeled as a STAND.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollingStoned View Post
    It also has A,8v6 labeled as a STAND.
    I didn't notice that. That is also different than Griffin's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Then stand
    All right, then.
    I just found this forum and am looking forward to browsing through some of the old posts.
    Thanks.

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    A,7 vs. 2 is a double in the game you mention. So is A,8 vs. 6.

    No idea what the others are talking about. You stipulated the rules of the game. You're correct and, of course, Griffin is, too.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    A,7 vs. 2 is a double in the game you mention. So is A,8 vs. 6.

    No idea what the others are talking about. You stipulated the rules of the game. You're correct and, of course, Griffin is, too.

    Don
    Thanks. My faith in Griffin is renewed.

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    He said he is not counting, so throwing in +this -that is irrelevant to him. For S17 you would stand and for H17 would double. It of course goes much deeper than that but changes in rules and number of decks can alter the basic strategy. No big deal problem solved, the crisis is over and now he knows the proper basic strategy but what is perplexing to me is that someone learning basic strategy that doesn't count is referencing Theory of Blackjack when there's other books geared more toward someone just learning basic strategy. Theory of Blackjack is a great 3rd book to get into once you've learned to count, probably not the best 1st book to tear into.

    A,7vs2 is a slightly positive expectation hand and whether you stand or double off the top of the deck it's practically a coin flip. I'll skip going into the gory details but perfect play for this hand goes way beyond what the TC is doing. It's a fascinating hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzan View Post
    Theory of Blackjack is a great 3rd book to get into once you've learned to count, probably not the best 1st book to tear into.
    With all due respect for [Jane's guy who swingeth from the high branches and swims like a seal]
    I disagree.
    The 6th edition of "The Theory of Blackjack" should be the first book a new Card Counter reads.
    It will be a humbling experience for the arrogant newbie who imagines that BJ is a SIMPLE game,
    as portrayed by the books on the shelves at Barnes & Noble. If nothing else, it comprehensively
    presents the complete and correct Basic Strategy for any number of Decks and common rules.
    It is also a bargain-priced book.

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