The O.P. did not respond to what I believe was his saying that
"2D with Surrender and DAS" was what he played at Sunset Station.
It sounds extremely unlikely that ONE Station Casino would
have a better than usual game, especially Sunset Station.
You have received mostly good advice. There is no reason to show ID, and many reasons NOT to show ID. Just leave. Don't rattle the cages of the casino beasts. The following may be helpful to you.Originally Posted by BlackAce
Guide to Minimizing Risk of Personal Injury During Casino Backoffs and Barrings
Opinions and Commentary on the Gaming Industry: The Bear Growls
I've reread my initial comments, and see what appears to be our differing points of view. I think a proper reality is that my comments were articulated in a matter not exactly mirroring my intent. I think it would be more proper to add - what works for me - when combined with other aspects of casino persona.
Yes, part 3 will come... in just a few days.
@ZenMaster_Flash: Yes, it was Sunset station with the late surrender, DAS and H17 on a DD 5 $ table. It was often full (due to low table min) but only 1 guy used surrender after I convinced him (I didn't want to stand out as the only guy who uses LS). Only the SD at the El Cortez slightly beat that in terms of minimal house edge (at least to my limited LV experience). I had a good experience with Station casinos. Good pen, no heat at my level, friendly dealers, PBs, and patrons.
I have all my knowledge from the 3 BJ books and reading alot in BJ forums also helped tremenduously (this included). I think here I picked up the 'girlfriend' excuse with the players card. Thanks!
Other excuses would be "already getting too much advertising..." or "afraid of identity theft with all these hackers...".
Regarding bankroll I figured: Max bet = 100 $, bankroll = 200 * Max bet. Some authors / forum postings advise 100, some 200 max bets. This was planned as more than just a weekend trip therefore 25 max bets would not be enough.
A spread of 25 - 100 $ on a 25 $ minimum DD is not much but with decent penetration I still get a 1 % theoretical edge. This is why I was focussed on good pen. Often I was betting 10 $ at a count of 0, 5 $ at negative counts, wong out at -5 to -10, and raised to 20 $, 40 $ etc. in positive counts.
At the SLS they were certainly not concerned with my age when asking for my ID because I'm already balding. Even though I won't go back the the SLS anytime soon I definately don't want them to have my name next to my photo. They could have tresspassed me even after getting my ID and then they could really call the police if there is a future encounter because they can prove I was there already. Or they could just rat me out to their buddies. All theory - but I see just no upside in showing the ID and I was not as quick whitted as some of you.
I have a question regarding the trespass...since the security guard did not give you something in writing and they really don't know who you are, how can they trespass you the next time you go? I mean they can kick you out, but I don't think they can do anything that would get you arrested.
They do have 6:5 tables at the Sunset Station, of course. But I never play 6:5 BJ because 6:5 BJ is slaughter (~1.5 % house edge) and everyone else should stay away from it, too. This table with LS was a regular 2D with 3:2 payout and something like a 5-500 $ limit. I don't know if they still have it though because this was in early 2015.
@ ZenMaster_flash: I know that rule variations such as LS have different impacts on EV depending on number of decks, if you count or play BS, etc. but I didn't know this particular inverse relation. Thanks.
@ Winnawinna: And yes, this is why I didn't give my name. Should they ever catch me again after the tresspass and call the police because they have my photo on file I'd say they were confusing me with someone else. Unlikely - but just in case...
I am not a US-lawyer but I am sure a tresspass doesn't have to be given to a player "in writing". The experts here in the forum with more "tresspassing experience" may shed some light on this.
Long ago, in xxxxxxxxxx, I was being escorted "off property"
[from a place I had been trespassed from] by the State Police
when I tried the "That ain't me" defense. I had no I.D. at all
on me. Along with partner, detained for hours. Sovereign State !
They had photos of me and ~ YIKES! There it was -- a photo of
me showing a piece of bling that I was actually wearing that day.
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