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    Losing streak rant PART TWELVE

    Last night I had my worst session on record, losing $2,400 in an hour.

    There were few, if any, redeeming features. I started the session in a new shoe by having two failed doubles the first two hands.

    Absolutely nothing went right. There was, in theory, plenty of juicy EV to be made, as the shoes were often extremely positive.
    But I won none of those opportunities.
    It was a dealer ten or a dealer ace every hand when the count was high. And I got dealt either a stiff hand (from which I invariably bust) or a lousy made hand (17 or 18) and the dealer invariably got 20.

    Finally, with two hands of max bets out, I finally get dealt two tens with the dealer getting a four. I double both hands and get a picture card for 20. She draws to 21.

    The following shoe the same thing happens again. Instead, I now have FIVE max bets out due to splitting and doubling. I don't do badly either, getting four 19's and a stiff hand to stand on against a dealer six. Effortlessly, she draws to 20.

    In Pontoon, on a hard 12, you bust on your next card only a quarter of the time. In my case it is well over 75%.

    On the more mundane shoes and smaller hands I did just as bad. In one shoe that hour, the dealer won 30 of the first 33 hands. The following shoe I lost the first eleven hands.

    In one swoop I have lost two thirds of this month's profits.

    I actually dreaded the count going up because I knew I would lose more money. That's exactly how I felt during my last losing streak.

    It seems that even when I am winning, it is generally on the small and moderate bets. Those big hands with multiple splits and doubles, I just invariably lose.

    I accept that there is variation, and I know that my long-term risk of ruin is very small, but I am just sick of being forever and ever being on the left hand side of the Gaussian curve. In fact I remain at a loss over my last 9 months (I won $7.5k in my first month, then had my first losing streak and remain below where I was at the end of January). My overall results are in the bottom 15% of expectations.

    In terms of sessions won or lost I am okay (~56%), but unfortunately the size my losses are not being made up for by my wins.

    And ploppies. They suck. They just get better variation than you every session. You should have seen the irritating old woman get dealt blackjack after blackjack after 21 despite not knowing how to play, drawing on 16 vs 6, and getting her blackjacks against the dealer tens and aces. In contrast, the dealer always draws to 21 when I get a 20. Of course, eventually she got greedy and lost her session bankroll. But that's beside her point.

    Why do we even bother to play this stupid game, and any of its variants. Perhaps God wants to teach us a lesson.

    PS. I wanted to add that I had won five out of my last six sessions, and eleven of my last fourteen. I actually wouldn't have minded the house recording a loss this time around, after ratholing at least. But I still didn't appreciate having the biggest one-hour loss of my entire miserable career.
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    I.... feel so right doing the Wong thing!!! 9-5! 9-5! 9-5! Every king that screws her makes me feel alive!!

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    If you are effected so much by losing money, you should forego the casinos, and take up a relaxing hobby.
    You are "stressing yourself out" and that will act to reduce your life span by a few years (on average) !

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    I am not stressed so much as angry and disappointed.

    If I lose my entire bankroll, I will quit. That may take a few months though.

    If you are effected so much by losing money, you should forego the casinos, and take up a relaxing hobby.
    You are "stressing yourself out" and that will act to reduce your life span by a few years (on average) ![/SIZE][/QUOTE]
    I.... feel so right doing the Wong thing!!! 9-5! 9-5! 9-5! Every king that screws her makes me feel alive!!

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    I was young when I started to read, though not finish, OP's intro. I have to agree with Flash. The story is never ending, each chapter a repetition of the prior, and seldom a happy thought.

    Redirect some of that Herculean effort composing your B singularly focused novel, and expend it where it will yield you a return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeymouse View Post
    "I am not stressed so much as angry and disappointed.

    If I lose my entire bankroll, I will quit. That may take a few months though."
    You are demonstrating precisely what I am saying.

    If you have anger and disappointment - those are

    very stressful emotions. Look closer. They are dysphoric.

    You are probably 1/3 my age. It is time to take stock.

    The outlaw existence is not for everyone. Certainly not

    for you; and it is not for >99% of the human race.

    Pardon the understatement. If you are still "up" in BJ

    that is a great inducement. Quitting a Winner is fine!
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    affected, forgo.

    Don

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    That's why it is de rigeur to seek games with the lowest variance.

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    I have seen a lot of posts in the past by ZenMaster that have been very valuable and appreciated, but, on this occasion, I need to say that was quite patronizing and condescending. To put things in perspective, I have had ONE session this bad out of 150.

    I will also say, without revealing my exact location, that I am EXTREMELY lucky to be able to play at my main venue with such good penetration and conditions, and that the staff there have been very tolerant indeed, and very generous with their comps. I have dinner on the house every session, for example, and in addition I get cash comps approaching 8% of my theoretical EV, AND free drinks AND tipping in this country is not allowed.

    I don't find it repetitive/boring and that is because of the myriad of people I meet and chat to from around the world, sometimes in THEIR language, I can share a coffee and a chat while we play, it is a very good environment.

    And when the shoe gets bad I can catch a few minutes of my favourite sports live, I don't have pay cable TV at home, or just go to the lavatory.

    If I moved, there probably isn't conditions as good within 3000 miles.
    I.... feel so right doing the Wong thing!!! 9-5! 9-5! 9-5! Every king that screws her makes me feel alive!!

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    I might just also add that I have always been a glass half empty kind of person. Had I won the same amount of money last night, which happened almost to that extent only 2 sessions before, I would not nearly feel so happy as I felt angry. It is just like when I was at school; if I got an "A" for English the elation would be over in seconds; if I got a "B-" I would be in a bad mood for a looong time.
    I.... feel so right doing the Wong thing!!! 9-5! 9-5! 9-5! Every king that screws her makes me feel alive!!

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    MickeyMouse, If it makes You feel any better I have been even for the last 18 months, every time I get up a few $k I have a huge losing session and back down, but I love it and it doesn't bug Me. Smallcap said in a podcast that He could care less about variance so why should We. But Yes You might need to do something else with Your time and money and enjoy Your life.

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    If a player is down EV wise playing 4 N0 ,he/she should look at their game for weakness . If you have over 100,000 rounds played and still behind ,you may need to check your game. I play as strong as possible game.This game has high variance and should not be taken lightly . If i had a bad day ,I just go do something to relax me , watching a movie, play some games , listen to music,etc.... and go to bed earlier . They all help. I always go in with the expectation to lose a certain amount and call it quit as long as the good shoe is over. During my first 1000 hours i lost many times and one time i raged(betting double kelly) and lost all but $1100 ,then i told myself i will get my money back ,one step at a time. Eventually i got multiple times what I had in a few years. It was stressful ,and i let it be stressful.
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    I wanted to add that I have had plenty of winning sessions. I just don't feel the elation of winning. I expect to lose every session I play - just not by as much as I posted here and in so utter a manner. I'm sure there will be a part thirteen - tomorrow even.
    I.... feel so right doing the Wong thing!!! 9-5! 9-5! 9-5! Every king that screws her makes me feel alive!!

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    It's also interesting how in theory much of the EV gained at high counts is through splitting and doubling, and yet in recent times, when these opportunities present themselves I invariably lose. Splits almost always result in stiff hands and the dealer always draws to 20 and 21, resulting in a massive loss.
    I.... feel so right doing the Wong thing!!! 9-5! 9-5! 9-5! Every king that screws her makes me feel alive!!

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