How often you cash out at cage after large win? Start Chip Inventory?

[Wino]

I was wondering what is common from your experiences for choosing whether or not to cash out or hang onto the chips for another time/another session after a big win. In the case of Green to Low Black play and wins in the size of 1,2, or 3 Standard deviations to the right per hour. The last time I cashed out, Floor Manager stood next to me at the cage (I know...) to confirm with cage the amount for their accounting. This time I just left with the chips. Only my 3rd session at the joint ever and so no heat yet*. Thanks for your opinions.

[BJprive]

How many std devs is probably not as important than amount. Can u say what 2 std devs or 3 std devs was in terms of $$

[ZenMaster_Flash]

If the casino is a place that you play at with ANY regularity, do NOT cash out at all.
"Color Up" to medium large denominations, but not over $500 chips, and use them
for future buy-ins. If "on the road" don't cash out until you are ready to leave town.

[BJGenius007]

If the casino is a place that you play at with ANY regularity, do NOT cash out at all.
"Color Up" to medium large denominations, but not over $500 chips, and use them
for future buy-ins. If "on the road" don't cash out until you are ready to leave town.

Players are supposed to cash purple chips or above right away. The surveillance cameras in the path monitor you from the table to the cage, so casinos have the correct win/loss record of players, rated or not.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

"Players are supposed to cash purple chips or above right away. The surveillance cameras in the path monitor you from the table to the cage, so casinos have the correct win/loss record of players, rated or not."

"Supposed to" means they want you to. Nothing more than that.

It has NOTHING at all to do with casino accounting procedures.

They know how much cash was "dropped" and they know from "counting down"

the dealer's rack periodically, how much is won or lost. That is called the table "hold"

They know what YOU won or lost at the table, not at the cashier.

[Ryemo]

Wino,

I'm assuming these are stores that you frequent? I would definitely recommend keeping a chip inventory from casinos you visit often. I rotate 5 stores and I keep around 8-15 max bets in the form of green/black chips from each venue. My purpose is so I can arrive at a table and have little to no interaction with the pit. If you keep chips, you'll want to try to keep as many green as you can, because dealers sometimes call out "black action!" when black chips are in play. If this happens, it defeats the purpose of trying to fly under the radar. Unless of course you're black chipping, then that's a different situation. Although, I will take black chips home and just convert some of them into green at the cage before I start playing.

In my limited experience, by keeping a healthy chip inventory, I can slip into a game virtually unnoticed, I usually don't get hassled for a player's card (which I won't use at my home base casinos anymore), and I avoid attracting attention to myself by not needing to make repeated buy-ins if I start losing multiple max bets.

[BJGenius007]

"Supposed to" means they want you to. Nothing more than that.

It has NOTHING at all to do with casino accounting procedures.

They know how much cash was "dropped" and they know from "counting down"

the dealer's rack periodically, how much is won or lost. That is called the table "hold"

They know what YOU won or lost at the table, not at the cashier.

Better managed casinos have linked tables to the cashier. That is why I said the cameras monitor the path from tables to cage. Once floor person colored up a purple chip or above, he also activated the surveillance. The casino took picture of you at every step. Had the players not gone to cage, they will put the picture of the player under high alert database. Also, when player stepped into the casino, the casino already matched him/her to his/her profile in the database through facial recognition software. In this age, rathole and not cashing chips do players more harm than good. It is all in the database.

[Freightman]

In my neck of the woods, I have no concerns whatsoever about cashing out right away, except for ratholed amounts. I always stay under government reporting guidelines. Some joints have low threshold to call surveillance to monitor payouts. You will sometimes have the out call cash cage to query the amount cashed out.

So, what I do - rathole where appropriate and that amount, regardless, stays in my pocket, unless the rathole involved some type of cash transaction. Put out the exact amount for color up, that will generate purple. Keep a couple of blacks greens and red in my hand which the pit knows that I have, but obscured so they can't determine the amount. Those pits that want to keep track will phone the cage, and the answer they will get is the color up amount, plus the obscured chips not equating to purple. Answer subject to change depending on wheather heads up or not.

[Dog Hand]

Players are supposed to cash purple chips or above right away. The surveillance cameras in the path monitor you from the table to the cage, so casinos have the correct win/loss record of players, rated or not.

BJGenius007,

Then don't accept purples... either walk without coloring up, or tell the dealer "just blacks". If she asks why, tell her, "I don't accept colors without rhymes!" or some other crazy excuse.

Dog Hand

[BJGenius007]

BJGenius007,

Then don't accept purples... either walk without coloring up, or tell the dealer "just blacks". If she asks why, tell her, "I don't accept colors without rhymes!" or some other crazy excuse.

Dog Hand

That is what I do. I request blacks instead of purples all the time. Some friendly pit boss did comment, "Oh, you don't want us track you to the cage. But I still need to activate the track since you have ten black chips."

[Stealth]

Better managed casinos have linked tables to the cashier. That is why I said the cameras monitor the path from tables to cage. Once floor person colored up a purple chip or above, he also activated the surveillance. The casino took picture of you at every step. Had the players not gone to cage, they will put the picture of the player under high alert database. Also, when player stepped into the casino, the casino already matched him/her to his/her profile in the database through facial recognition software. In this age, rathole and not cashing chips do players more harm than good. It is all in the database.

Would like to know where this is and do you suspect this or do you know this? PM me?

I have walked around with 20K in purple chips in my pockets for days and never had any such issue. Nor am I aware of any casino that does this.

BTW, what is a better managed casino?

[Bodarc]

Here is a conversation I had with a dealer just last week.

I asked him how he was doing and he said "Well I haven't gone postal yet but I may any day." I said well let me know when you're about to because I don't want to be here. He said well, I don't mean that kind of postal, I'm thinking of just flipping over the table. I said well let me know in advance because I want to be sitting in front of the purples and blacks when you do it. He said that's where you'll make your mistake. They can track the purples and blacks all the way to your house. Grab the greens and reds.

I said, naa they can't track them like that can they? He swore they had a chip in them and they could. I think he's wrong but he swore they could.

[mofungoo]

They would probably lose interest in tracking me because I rarely go straight to the cage. I go to the VP machines, play a bit there, hit the poker room where I can launder some of the blacks, back to VP. Then maybe to the buffet or steakhouse. It may be 3 hours or more before I hit the cage, then I rarely cash the whole amount.

My home casino only uses RFID in the $1000 chips, I refuse them and get purple and black.