Vegas trip recommendations

[Banjoclan]

1) 2k is not enough for $25 min;200 max; You could loose more than 1k in a single shoe. Think about the good low limit games off strip and bring 4-5k.
2) A car is required for the best games which are off strip below $25; TI is not that great of a game and they sweat any decent spread.
3) Get a copy of CBJN $15; Look for 2D H17 DAS or 6d H17 DAS LS for $5 or $10 min. The lower mins will allow you to play a stronger game. Then do the 15:1 spread on the $10 table.

Hi,

How much more difficult do beginners find the DD game as it's usually dealt facedown?. I'm in a similar situation as OP but have a slightly bigger BR but want to play really conservatively so a 10-150 spread would probably work for me.


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[Bigdaddy]

Hi,

How much more difficult do beginners find the DD game as it's usually dealt facedown?. I'm in a similar situation as OP but have a slightly bigger BR but want to play really conservatively so a 10-150 spread would probably work for me.

My experience is that DD (facedown) games are generally easier to count because they move slower. You just need to get used to the routine of what cards you've counted (exposed) vs. non-exposed, then you're good to go. I've counted down DD games without error when I was half in the bag. One of the MGM strip casinos flat-betted me after about 10 beers.

Compare that to a shoe game with a fast dealer, playing two hands at an un-crowded table and you will find out how good your counting skills are.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

If playing a face-down DD game, it pays to learn how to "Count by Inference"

[ZeeBabar]

If playing a face-down DD game, it pays to learn how to "Count by Inference"

yes but when Ploppies are standing with 7,8 or 10,2, it could throw you off. Count by Inference works well when you are confident that all players at least play BS well. This is the case with higher limits but at the $5, $10 tables, it's impossible.

[Freightman]

yes but when Ploppies are standing with 7,8 or 10,2, it could throw you off. Count by Inference works well when you are confident that all players at least play BS well. This is the case with higher limits but at the $5, $10 tables, it's impossible.

Table minimum is absolutely NOT a guarantee of quality play at Any betting level.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

MEMO to newbies,

Meanwhile, the dealer exposes each and every hand that is still in play at the completion of each round,
so for your bet-sizing decisions you'll have complete instead of incomplete information for playing decisions.

[Frank Galvin]

And if you sit at the CC seat (3rd base), you'll have complete information for playing (deviation/index) decisions.

[Freightman]

And if you sit at the CC seat (3rd base), you'll have complete information for playing (deviation/index) decisions.

For years, the mantra has been 3rd base. I hate that position, as it pertains to blackjack. A dealer, especially a fast dealer, and especially depending on how they pickup cards on a first base bust, can super quickly, obscure the view of the cards. Not bad if you're sitting centre table, but if you're in the last spot, you lose count.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

I prefer "Second Base" (one of the centered seats.)
If you are not hole-carding of course, it is the spot
that offers the best views of other player's hands.

[Banjoclan]

MEMO to newbies,

Meanwhile, the dealer exposes each and every hand that is still in play at the completion of each round,
so for your bet-sizing decisions you'll have complete instead of incomplete information for playing decisions.

So probably has to do with plain old practice. Thanks.

[WABJ11]

Stay as far away from SLS as you possibly can. They have all the latest technology, and they can't afford to lose any money to AP play. You will get BO, and quickly, if you show any level of competence. Which is why I always see their $25 DD dead.

Vegas in general is crap, but if I do find myself there, I'll take the $25 DD H17 game DA2, DAS, 3:2 at the lower end MGM properties like Luxor, Mandalay Bay, NYNY. Keep in mind at the higher end MGM properties like Bellagio, the minimums for this game will be $100.

[ZeeBabar]

Table minimum is absolutely NOT a guarantee of quality play at Any betting level.

True but you can soon find if a player is a good BS player. My experience is that there are more poor BJ players at the red chip level.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

" ... more poor BJ players at the red chip level."

As they say nowadays ... ... ... "Doh ! and Ya' think?" (strongly accented last word.)