Opinion about heat levels at this chain

**Ryemo** · 11-12-2015, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash

So ... you (foolishly) ignored our consensus advice.

Your name is mud, with CET, nation wide, and along

with your photos, you have been given a spot in their

data base.

With luck, you may have avoided being reported to

Griffin Investigations and O.S.N.

You said ... "I was not banned from the casino, ONLY blackjack. The pit was friendly at least."

Both of those statements are essentially meaningless, and are typical for low stakes chip players.

Had you been a Black chipper, you would have possibly been trespassed and immediately evicted.

Yeah... My session was pretty short and I didn't show much of spread. I have a feeling I made it into a database, long before this particular session, but I could be wrong. All I can do is play unrated from now on, but obviously not for the rest of this trip.

**Stealth** · 11-12-2015, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Ryemo

They even addressed me by name.

Very high probability (almost a certainty!) you are in OSN.

Was backed off at newly renovated Vegas store while walking down aisle on first visit. Facial recognition and OSN.

**WABJ11** · 11-12-2015, 04:52 PM

I know OSN is the usual suspect we all seem to fall on for databases, but Griffin is making a comeback. I also think casinos who have access to Griffin tend to take it more seriously than OSN, which a lot of the industry knows (at least the smart ones) that the information in OSN can be wrong a lot of the times.

My most recent, and very very quick backoff, was because of Griffin which was told to me by my host.

**Ryemo** · 11-12-2015, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by Stealth

Very high probability (almost a certainty!) you are in OSN.

Was backed off at newly renovated Vegas store while walking down aisle on first visit. Facial recognition and OSN.

I had a long time poster (from BJ21) offer to search my name in the OSN database. I told him about my quick BO in Vegas that took place in 10 min. I'm not sure how this person has access to that information, but he said I wasn't in there. But I don't know about the other databases though.

**ZenMaster_Flash** · 11-13-2015, 05:14 AM

Employees in the casino business move about between employers at a fairly high rate.
Being identified as an A P ~ when you are spotted by someone familiar with you from a
casino where you had a prior back-off (or worse) certainly happens. It happened to me.

**WABJ11** · 11-14-2015, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Ryemo

I had a long time poster (from BJ21) offer to search my name in the OSN database. I told him about my quick BO in Vegas that took place in 10 min. I'm not sure how this person has access to that information, but he said I wasn't in there. But I don't know about the other databases though.

Sounds to me like a sweaty place, where you were betting like a counter. But the other main databases are Biometrica and Griffin. Although, I think usually you get into OSN first before moving onto those databases but I could be wrong.