The reason that I added H17 to the header, is that I don’t think we spend enough time educating players on the effects of this rule. Yes, BJ 6:5 is an abomination. But, anyone capable of simple math should realize that. H17 is far more invidious. It doesn’t really sound that bad to a neophyte. But, it has caused vastly more damage to players overall, whether they are APs or just vacation players. There simply is no reason for casinos to use such rules. They are going to get the bad players' money anyhow. It may take a few more minutes, but they will get it because the average player has either a gambling budget or a gambling addiction and will usually lose all of it. And that is 99.99% of all players. Meanwhile, they detract from the overall glamour of the city. By not giving the gambler an occasional win, they lose customers. And the city loses its attraction. All to harm the 0.01% of players that are the very people that bring glamour to the craft.