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  1. 10-23-2015, 04:13 PM #1
    ivanlp10n2
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    Question [Question] Recommend Books

    Hello everyone ! I'm kinda newbie at this beauty and useful way to make some money at investing.
    As most of you, once you're a beginner, the very first point to approach is information !

    I started to play BJ with a mate, first with CSM playing Oscar (betting strategy) and Basic Strategy. But as you can guess, it was a short-time win
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    After some wins and loses, i decided to take it to the next level. Found a hand-shufle shoe game, and started to learn and practice as much as i can. Everything is going well, but one of my worries goes about if my data is outdated.
    I started with Secrets of Blackjack and now i'm going on BlackBelt in BlackJack, i know they're old but gold. So, my question is :
    - Are them worth reading ?
    - What books do you recommend ?
    - There are plenty of counting strategy, and we never know wich of them start to use. So i started with Hi-Lo ¿ What's your opinion about it? ¿Wich one do you use, and why?

    Hope it can be useful for others new players.

    PD: If it doesn't goes here, let me know and i'll move it off .
    PD2: Sorry if my english isnt' good enough.
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  2. 10-23-2015, 05:13 PM #2
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    "BlackBelt in BlackJack" is a good book for you to get your feet wet,

    especially if you ignore the simpler counts and skip to the Zen Count.

    "Oscar's Grind" is a progressive betting delusion.

    "Secrets of Blackjack" has fine info'.

    Take some time off and learn how to bet and to play.
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  3. 10-23-2015, 07:29 PM #3
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    If I were learning from scratch, I would read Blackbelt in Blackjack (Snyder), Blackjack Attack (Schlesinger), Professional Blackjack (Wong) and The Theory of Blackjack (Griffin). In no set order.

    I would also mix in some entertaining reads, A Blackjack Life (Tilton), You've Got Heat (Barfarkel), 1536 Free Waters and Other Blackjack Endeavors: Finding Profit and Humor in Card-Counting (Wiggy) and Blackjack Autumn (Meadows?).

    Just a little light reading to mix in the substantive material.
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    The first book I ever read was "Playing Blackjack As A Business" and it is still one of my favorites. Short, Simple and to the point. Much of it will apply to the Hi Lo you are using.

    I also like "Million Dollar Blackjack" and the free book "Modern Blackjack" available at https://qfit.com/book/index.htm

    After you get your count etc down pat, I'd recommend "Blackjack Attack". This will teach you the finer points such as game selection, advanced play, statistics, bankroll requirements etc.
    Play within your bankroll, pick your games with care and learn everything you can about the game. The winning will come. It has to. It's in the cards. -- Bryce Carlson
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    Quote Originally Posted by ivanlp10n2 View Post
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    After some wins and loses, i decided to take it to the next level. Found a hand-shufle shoe game, and started to learn and practice as much as i can. Everything is going well, but one of my worries goes about if my data is outdated.
    I started with Secrets of Blackjack and now i'm going on BlackBelt in BlackJack, i know they're old but gold. So, my question is :
    - Are them worth reading ?
    - What books do you recommend ?
    - There are plenty of counting strategy, and we never know wich of them start to use. So i started with Hi-Lo ¿ What's your opinion about it? ¿Wich one do you use, and why?

    Hope it can be useful for others new players.
    The previous posts are good suggestions. I would also pay the nominal fee to join and take a look at this section Norm (the owner and moderator) has set up with most EVERY worthwhile book that was written about Blackjack that has any merit. It includes members comments and short reviews. If you can't access it, then you aren't a full member:

    https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/fo...y.php?80-Books
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  6. 10-23-2015, 11:23 PM #6
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    A lot of good books give you a little bit here of good info that the other doesn't say. Both Norm's BOok ,Bj attack 3 , bj blue print ,bj life, advantage play Xxxx ,by abraham xxx( more updated) ,sorry i forgot the title and name , i have not read bj for blood ( should be good 0 ,but i am using hi lo and don't want to switch), if you are interested in a level 2 count . i don't even think they add up to $150 which is bargain price to pay for good info. Then get software once you are ready to be serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Galvin View Post
    "Blackbelt in Blackjack (Snyder), Blackjack Attack (Schlesinger), Professional Blackjack (Wong) and The Theory of Blackjack (Griffin)."

    "I would also mix in some entertaining reads ... "Blackjack Autumn" (Meadows?)."
    "Blackjack Autumn" is VERY entertaining. The author is Barry Meadow

    SEE:     http://www.lolblackjack.com/blackjac.../barry-meadow/

    Be sure to obtain Blackjack Attack 3rd edition (preferably paperback) or 1994 printing.

    The Theory of Blackjack by Peter Griffin is extremely inexpensive and is a "MUST READ"

    Just be sure to get the 6th edition (or at least the 5th)
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  8. 10-24-2015, 09:14 AM #8
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    Thanks a lot ! I'm finishing Snyder's book and then continue with BJ attack
    When you start in this business, you find plenty of information about blackjack and advantage plays, then you realize that you have no idea where to start .
    So, thanks for your colaboration, and i'll follow this forum to keep updated about blackjack news and help others in what i may

    I'll keep learning and practicing !
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  9. 10-24-2015, 09:27 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by ivanlp10n2 View Post
    Thanks a lot ! I'm finishing Snyder's book and then continue with BJ attack
    When you start in this business, you find plenty of information about blackjack and advantage plays, then you realize that you have no idea where to start .
    So, thanks for your colaboration, and i'll follow this forum to keep updated about blackjack news and help others in what i may

    I'll keep learning and practicing !
    As a new player, you should
    Schlesingers Blackjack attack, though a classic, may be to daunting for you. Put that on the back burner for now.
    Snyders black belt in blackjack. An absolute classic that should be read and reread. There are many hidden jewels, some that you may not catch for years.
    Wongs Professional Blackjack. Another must have classic, especially for the hi Lo and halves player. I still refer to the tables starting around page 250.

    These would be the 2 best practical books for you. There are several honourable mentions made.
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  10. 10-24-2015, 09:51 AM #10
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    Thanks mate So i'll continue with Wong book and bj attack after that one.
    i'm happy that most of you recommend me BlackBelt, so i'm in the right way
    Now i'm remember, i didn't started Professional Blackjack because i read a little and it was very similar to secrets of blackjack, but if your experience is advising i'll do it.

    While reading Snyder's book, i ask myself if shuold i switch into red seven many times. i guess most of newbies goes into this confusion, it's very common, while reading different book's author, they promote their system as the best one to use it because of many reasons.
    I'll make it professional, i love cards, and in that little experience i learnt a lot. At this very moment, i don't have enough knowledge for making the wiser decision about what system approach and reading some forums, and blog entries, i figured out that Hi-Lo is not the best system, but the most popular. So, will be easier to find a solution for any doubt at Hi-Lo than Wong Hence.
    Feel you free to correct me if i'm wrong.

    ¿What system do you use? ¿ What's the stronger point of that one ?

    Thanks for reading
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    So, I'm Sitting here in the crapper at the undisclosed store, getting ready for
    The next session. I know of one good pro only that uses red 7, an advanced version. I would say hi lo is the place to start. It's easy to become proficient, and figure out if you really want to stay on this game. You may become first class and decide to stay with ho lo, or go to something more powerful. The nice thing about hi lo is that there
    is absolutely reams of info on It. For the fellow that progresses to halves, the indexes are virtually identical. Flash will come out swinging going to hi opt 2, also a powerful system, with side counts . Far stronger than hi lo, but weaker than
    Hi lo if no side counts are used. Tarzan, Tthree approaches can wait for a lunar eclipse or 2 - interesting shit though.
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  12. 10-24-2015, 10:40 AM #12
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    Oh, that's really useful ! I though about starting Opt 2, but i wasn't that sure if it's worth to learn instead Hi-Lo. Probably, i'll mater hi-lo before going into opt (which is my 2nd option)
    Of course, i'm really anxious about going to the casino and play some hands, but 'patience is a virtue' and it save me some money haha.
    Thanks for info !
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    If undecided, don't discount hi opt 2. The tag values are not difficult. With your at home practice, try side counting aces to see if its something u can do. I think s log if newer players start with hi lo thougj
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