Quote Originally Posted by rebel4ever View Post
Hello All -
Very new to this and just had a question about shoes with bad counts.

From what I have read the AP players goal is to get into shoes with good counts and then modify their play and bets according to the count to gain an advantage. Until the count is good, they would just flat bet and play BS trying to minimize losses while waiting for the count to improve. To further minimize this, a player could back-count and just jump in to positive count shoes but this could be tricky at some casinos and may bring heat.

So if we assume that all shuffles are random, the number of bad count shoes to neutral count shoes to good count shoes would be equal. The AP would not really have any advantage in the bad or neutral count shoes only in the high count shoes or basically in 1/3 of shoes dealt. That would mean there would be a lot of time spent playing in non-advantage situations.

In a good count shoe, the variations from BS include more doubling down, less hitting of stiff hands, more surrender to take into account the higher percentage of 10 value cards in the remaining decks.

So now to my question-
Is it possible to modify BS so that it would provide a player advantage when the count went highly negative? Maybe less doubling down, different splitting strategy, more hitting of stiff hands.

I'm guessing that if the count goes to far negative it is probably best to leave the table or wait for the next shoe - but I figure that doing that too much or only playing in high-count shoes might bring unwanted attention.

I just wonder if there would be a BS variation for negative count shoes that would increase the players advantage over just straight BS.

Might be a stupid question...
Here is the answer to you post:

https://www.blackjackincolor.com/truecount3.htm
https://www.blackjackincolor.com/penetration4.htm

Hope that answered your question.