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    anybody want to run this for me?

    single deck, 3/2, double T&11 and 70% pen. start out $100, stay at $100 if i win and count is -1 through +1. otherwise go down to $50 at -2 and lower, and if you lose again, go down to $25. on all of the high counts i'm using $50 units up to $300 and not covering at all besides counts that would call for a small change in bet size, where i'd leave it. can cv do stuff this specific?

    i'm also going to leave if i have a streak of big bets, then it goes negative at the beginning of a deck.
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    CVData can do that kinda stuff (I think?). I'm almost positive CVCX cannot do that kinda stuff, specifically the "if I lose go to $50 if I lose again go to $25".
    "Everyone wants to be rich, but nobody wants to work for it." -Ryan Howard [The Office]

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    I've been wanting to ask this. What are the practical advantages for CVData? I read this: https://qfit.com/counting-cards-simulation.htm. I'm wondering if for a hilo player at light green stakes who is very part time, is CVData more information than I need? When I think of a hierarchy of my needs as a player, I consider game selection, betting strategy, more indexes, but I'm mostly working on having the discipline to get my max out and, on the other side, wong out. The answer I guess is of course that CVData can do what I need now and will also be a good resource as I advance in ability. But does anyone have any thoughts on this?

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    So what I get out of this is 1D 3/2 H17 DT-11 DAS(only 10 and 11 though), good PEN... House Edge for H17 is .46%.

    First, you should be upping your bet at +1 because at that point you're also less than a deck, so the TC is more than +1 and you're probably around a half percent favorite by that time. From what you discussed, being so situational, I'm going to use the following spread:

    TC <= -2 = $35
    TC = -1 = $75
    TC = 0 = $100
    TC = +1 = $150
    TC = +2 = $200
    TC = +3 = $250
    TC >= +4 = $300

    The net result from the .46% HE and the previously mentioned spread is approximately $39.91 per 100 hands (so per hour on an average table).

    Do note that I used an "average" of your 50 and 25 bets for TC -2, or TC +1 where I think you should up, etc. With your TC +1 = 100, then moving by 50 increments, that's $33.72 per 100 hands.

    If you'd like to have the sheets to do this yourself I have a massive A to Z thread (and articles) on WoV and in then I linked to Google Docs where I shared my excel sheets. Everything about them is explained there as well. You'd simply have to modify the house edge and your betting spread to see the different results:

    1 Deck (25): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
    2 Deck (25): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
    6 Deck (10): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

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    Some folks buy treadmills or exercise equipment and after a few weeks, it lies unused. I am that sort of person and it's one reason I have not bought it yet. I guess it depends upon how serious you get, how many different venues and types of games you play and your personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Some folks buy treadmills or exercise equipment and after a few weeks, it lies unused. I am that sort of person and it's one reason I have not bought it yet. I guess it depends upon how serious you get, how many different venues and types of games you play and your personality.
    no it doesn't your a lazy human being. Some being cheap, you cant be a card counter without this software, you just a glorified gambling addict

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    Quote Originally Posted by smallcapgrowth View Post
    no it doesn't your a lazy human being. Some being cheap, you cant be a card counter without this software, you just a glorified gambling addict
    Ya' betcha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smallcapgrowth View Post
    no it doesn't your a lazy human being. Some being cheap, you cant be a card counter without this software, you just a glorified gambling addict
    SCG can be a tad harsh at times (and that's being VERY polite ) I myself wouldn't have posted the "lazy human being" or "gambling addict" thoughts. I would have kept those judgements to myself, but DAMN ZeeBabar, you DO deserve it!

    I want to add just one word to the most important part of SCG's post. You can not be a SERIOUS card counter without this software! You just can't.

    Zee, you talk about how you are in the process of deciding if you can make a living or supplement your living from BJ play after retiring in the near future. Well, it doesn't get more serious that that. If you are REALLY at that point, then stop yanking everyone's chain and take this seriously and buy the software.

    You posted BJ winnings last year greater than I had, so why on earth have you not reinvested a tiny fraction of those winnings into the software that will pay for itself a hundred times over and allow you to not only answer all your own questions, but you will progress and see things clearly that you didn't before. It's impossible to take you seriously when you won't do the damn smallest thing to help yourself.

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    "can cv do stuff this specific?"

    The question isn't if the software can do it (of course it can), but whether or not YOU can remotely do it in a casino. You're suggesting 1-12 in SD??? You won't last five minutes.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romes View Post
    TC <= -2 = $35
    TC = -1 = $75
    TC = 0 = $100
    Romes, why would you raise your bets when you are at a disadvantage?
    Play within your bankroll, pick your games with care and learn everything you can about the game. The winning will come. It has to. It's in the cards. -- Bryce Carlson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodarc View Post
    Romes, why would you raise your bets when you are at a disadvantage?
    Read the OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollingStoned View Post
    Read the OP.
    It helps when you do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    "can cv do stuff this specific?"

    The question isn't if the software can do it (of course it can), but whether or not YOU can remotely do it in a casino. You're suggesting 1-12 in SD??? You won't last five minutes.

    Don
    i get backed off and 86'd a ton. i play poker primarily though, so it doesn't bother me to take 8 months off at a time from some stores.
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