Hello =) I'm new.

[KJ]

Your best bet is the $5 DD games at the Station Casinos.
I suggest Palace Station. Learn to play a H17 DD game.
Do not spread beyond $5 to $25 You may "break even."

I don't recommend this plan of attack. Maybe if you are not planning on returning or planning on playing Vegas VERY infrequently. Vegas DD is closely monitored, sadly even at low limits. If you are going to burn out places playing $5 double deck, burn out solo, independent type stores. The last thing you want to do is burn out a chain of some of the better opportunities, including some real good 6 deck games, playing $5 limits. Don't burn through the one chain that you may really want to play for higher stakes at some future point.


Stations does share info with sister properties, so a backoff at one is a problem at all. If you are going to burn out stores playing $5 limits, hit up some independents like the Spaniard, Downtown Grand, the D, Golden Nugget, Hooters, Silver 7, maybe a couple Boulder highways stores, like Eastside Can.

Second, among stations properties, Palace is probably the single most sweaty (in my experience). If I am going to play a chain that has good games at a number of locations, and shares information, I am not going straight to the sweatiest of those properties.

[Bubbles]

I didn't burn out any stores and I don't intend to . At least I don't think I did! I'll find out in a year or more when I return.

[KJ]

I didn't burn out any stores and I don't intend to . At least I don't think I did! I'll find out in a year or more when I return.

If you aren't returning for a year, then that's different. You can go ahead and play the best games available without too much consequences. If you aren't returning for a long period, what you are really burning out would be your name (the name on your players card).

[BJGenius007]

Couldn't find any decent games under 25$ min on the strip. Had fun seeing all the lights and people watching. I went downtown and found some 5$ 6D 3:2 games. I found some 5$ DD games, but I don't have BS memorized for DD.

DD, 6D and 8D have the same BS table. Only SD has different strategy table. In short, you only need to memorize four sets of BS tables:

(multiple decks, single deck) x (S17, H17).

[BJGenius007]

Ummm, DD definitely has a different basic strategy than 4-8 deck genius. Check the pair splits for the differences.

Nope. Pair splits have different sets only if double after split is not allowed.

[Stealth]

DD, 6D and 8D have the same BS table.

There are differences.

Basic Strategy Charts
http://www.blackjackscience.com/medi...c-Strategy.pdf

[KJ]

I think we are 'nit picking' a bit here fellas. Yes, there are some differences between DD and 6/8 deck games, but for the most part they are minor and the penalty (cost) for playing the wrong strategy will be pennies at the $5 level the OP is talking about. I mean if he is going to be a frequent player and/or playing higher stakes, or god for bid aspiring to be the next.......??, then yes by all means learn the correct strategy for the game that you are playing. But for occasional red chip play, you can get by with little penalty.

I think much more important advice for a newer, red chip player is make ABSOLUTELY sure you are not playing 6:5 blackjack, since casinos have become pretty sleazy in trying to disguise this fact. That is a more costly trap.

[Bubbles]

Yes. On the strip I found some 5$-10$ games, but they were all 6:5, had CSM's, or both. What astonished me the most was the tables with 6:5 didn't even display the BJ payout. I had to ask the dealers. You guys might be right that I should perhaps not worry too much about the strategy variations. My perfect BS was noticed.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

"My perfect BS was noticed."

Perfection ? Hmmm. Doubtful.

[Bubbles]

Perfection ? Hmmm. Doubtful.

I don't have any indices memorized that were useful, so yes, I was playing perfect basic strategy. BS takes like 10-20 minutes to learn. I memorized the table from Wizard of Odd's for shoe games for both H17 and S17 with DAS, and with and without Surrender. I have not fully memorized BS for shoe games that do not allow DAS, or any BS for SD/DD games. The tables I played were 6D H17 DAS, some had surrender and some didn't. If there are more accurate BS charts, I'd love to know about them. I did play perfectly according to the BS I learned. It's not rocket science.

[BJGenius007]

I have not fully memorized BS for shoe games that do not allow DAS, or any BS for SD/DD games.

I am trying to tell you: DO NOT play DD using SD tables. DD/4D/6D/8D use the same table that are the most common and you already memorized. In short, there are two categories. First is SD alone. The other is for multiple decks including 2D, 4D, 6D and 8D.

[Bubbles]

I am trying to tell you: DO NOT play DD using SD tables. DD/4D/6D/8D use the same table that are the most common and you already memorized. In short, there are two categories. First is SD alone. The other is for multiple decks including 2D, 4D, 6D and 8D.

I understand and agree with what you are saying. I do not particularly want to play DD with 4-8D BS either. However, it is tempting if it would get the pit bosses to stop commenting on my play. PE is so important in SD I would not want to use the wrong BS and destroy my edge. I think I will change my persona instead because that will cost a lot less. Not really sure what to change at the moment. Maybe if I look trashy? Maybe it's just the way I sit down? idk. I think I'll ask a couple of the really nice dealers at my favourite store what I should change about my appearance.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

BJGenius007 is, unsurprisingly, living up to his ironic name.

" ... DD/4D/6D/8D use the same table that are the most common and you already memorized.

Basic Strategy is certainly NOT the same for SD and DD, etc. !

In the Theory of Blackjack and Blackjack Attack, [3rd ed. only]

the absolutely correct Basic Strategy Tables for all rules and any

numbers of decks can be found !