My first BO, what did I do wrong?

[Shadowless]

Couple things you did wrong in your post:

1. You said, "I'm in my mid Xs but look Y."
2. You revealed how you react to certain hands and your cover and interaction with employees.
3. You gave your bet spread and how you use a mechanical approach.
3. You told us where you plan on playing next and asked which casinos are recommended.

That information isn't necessary and is too descriptive of a profile to identify you.

[Bigdaddy]

I get a $55/100 rounds win rate, c-SCORE of 59.03, and n0 of 16938.

Of course heads up would have better results probably about what BD got for SCORE.

Differences might be due to some of the detailed settings. I used 75 hands per hour for the DD game and "half-deck resolution" for true count measurement...

[Three]

Differences might be due to some of the detailed settings. I used 75 hands per hour for the DD game and "half-deck resolution" for true count measurement...

That would do it. Thanks for clarifying. I didn't doubt your results. I put mine up to show you were right because they were very close. You probably got that tone from saying heads up play would be very close to your results.

Personally I like results in $/100 rounds. Any hourly can easily be determined by factoring in individual game speed.

[Jabberwocky]

So I just experience my first backoff as a card counter today. I am sad to say that it was at my favorite casino in the area, but it wasn't a bad experience. On the contrary, the two people that backed me off were very pleasant and complimented me on my play and just told me that I am too good for them. I am now not allowed to play any table games at this place (is it safe to say where? I don't think anyone will be surprised if they hear the name, it is in removed).

Anyways, although I am excited that I got BO'd (I must be doing something right, I hope...), I want to know what caused me to get the tap. I am not afraid to admit that I do not have 100% perfect play yet as I've only been seriously counting cards and applying bet spreads and such for about 2 months now, and have only been using Hi-Opt II for about 2 weeks. I was spreading 1-6 at the $25 DD table, which I was under the impression is generally a safe spread at most places, especially while using HOII. The biggest reason that I can think of is that I don't generally ramp up my bets slowly, if the count jumps suddenly I will jump my bet with it, usually going just 1 unit below the recommended bet vs the TC. For example, if the TC jumps from 0 to 3, my bet spread would indicate I bet $100, but going from a $25 bet I will just press it to $75. Generally I try not to press more than $50 a hand, unless the TC jumps high enough to indicate a 4 unit+ bet AND I only have a handful of green chips left on the table, making it seem like an "all-in" type of play. As far as my profile goes I am in my mid 20s but look like I'm 15, I try to tip about $5 an hour, sometimes more at the end when coloring up a big win, and I try to make small talk with the dealers/pit managers to not seem like I'm super focused on the cards. I also hesitate when I have hands that are potential doubles/splits and show the cards to the dealer to seem like I'm not super sure of what I'm doing. I also like to complain a lot when I get pocket Aces when the count is high (UGH I have to split Aces vs a 10 when I have $150 on the table, this SUCKS! ) I was playing rated, as I always do there, but I hadn't been at this place in about 4 months and it was the first time actually counting cards there.

I would love some input on my play and ways I can work on my cover so I can avoid being BO'd at other casinos in my area, I'm already driving 2+ hours as is and would love to be able to continue to visit local stores. Please let me know if I put in too much information or too little so I can amend the post. Also feel free to PM me if you'd like to keep some information more private.

On a side note: I'm thinking of going to Vegas soon, can I get some recommendations of where to play either via PM or post here?

Thank you!!

To play effective DD, you need many venues; not just one.

[moo321]

Vegas DD is sweaty. Don't use your real name, because you're going to get kicked out of places.

Also, don't back yourself off. A 1-6 spread is pretty weak on most DD, and you're combining that with betting cover. I bet you're cutting at least 50% of your EV off vs. playing optimally with a 1-8 or 1-10 spread.

[WABJ11]

They don't call DD a counters trap for no reason. You didn't do anything wrong, from the sound of it. You will get backed off from DD, especially since casinos are paranoid about DD. Everyone and their mother knows that the less decks, the more prone to counting. The only real way you can survive at DD for a long period of time is using high cover like making big bets off the top, and sacrificing a little EV here and there, and doing dumb shit like raising your bet when the count is bad. But if you're gonna play DD and just min bet until the count gets good, and then shove the money out you will be backed off quickly unless you're dealing with some real idiots who have no way to skills check you.

Something note, when you know you're being skills checked (phones are ringing, pits are staring at you, etc...) do some really dumb stuff.