I see that players log their plays and include the amount of hands per hr and win rate per hour, or even amount of hands in a session. Even the calculators in CV software have inputs for hand/hr. Im wondering if you guys actually count the number of hands that you have played in an hour or in a session?
Neither have I. On the odd occasions I get out now, I log the length of time I'm playing, make an estimate of the number of hands dealt per hour and take my calculations from that. To keep a tally of the number of hands played in a bricks and mortar house of chance would be an additional bind - it's not like raiding your hand histories on an online poker site and just copying and pasting the results into a spreadsheet?Originally Posted by moo321
I estimate rounds per session. If it is a very short session (wong out), I just estimate the few rounds. If it is longer like a shoe game, I divide the number of cards played by number of hands per round (including dealer) x 2.8 cards per round. Example 3 players plus dealer (4 x 2.8) = 11.2 cards per round. 5 decks player = 260 cards. 260 divided by 11.2 equals 24 rounds played that shoe. If the number of players or hands played was not constant for the shoe, due to a player wonging in, exiting, or switching number of hands, I will estimate that number of players part, often splitting the difference and using .5 Example: if there were 3 player plus the dealer and one player was switching back and forth between one and two hands, I will say 4.5 x 2.8 cards = 12.6 cards per round.
In the end, doesn't matter how you decide to do it, just estimate as accurately as you can, rounds played and you'll be fine.
I used to use KJs method as well as hours with an avg.. Now I really don't even see why it is all that important.
I am properly B Rolled. I am 100 percent sure my count/skills are good since I test myself and practice regularly.. I am going to continue to play whether my EV is above or below what it "should" be at anyways, at least for now. Keeping Track of results perfectly, won't change them..
I now just make the best guess at the end of the day because of all this, and the fact that I don't want to waste time taking notes that aren't necessary.
Unless someone has a better reason??
Last edited by White Guy; 11-12-2012 at 01:07 PM.
Do you double the hands seen when you are back counting two tables simultaneously but only wong into one?
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imho there are loads of reason one should know the number of hands normally played in an hour or a session, sorta thing.
like you say CV software uses it, so there you go a perfect reason you want to know this information for your actual play. for comparison reasons. you can see how your doing on a round by round, hour by hour, day by day, week by week, month by month, year by year basis. or you can scout how busy a casino is, at various times and determine what kind of value you can get out of a joint according to the time of day and how much play you can expect to get, sorta thing.
you can use such info to compare games that have different rules, but that may offer you a different amount of play. so you can determine opportunity costs and values, sorta thing.
you can use the information regarding the amount of play you can expect to project into the future about just how much money you can expect to make on a daily, weekly, monthly and yearly basis.
maybe you have some games that you have competition cutting into your action, you can determine what that may cost you and how it may or may not be worthwhile to deal with your competition.
this sort of information can help you decide just how hard or not you may want to work, lol.
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