Forced to give up ID & SS cashing out

[Bodarc]

I would politely decline the request without explanation or excuses.

Your answer is best.

[ACFERRET]

Just want to confirm what everybody else is saying that there is no law or regulation requiring the patron to present ID, or provide an SSN to redeem chips, and they are in fact bullshitting you as you suspected.

If you cash out for MORE THAN $10,000 within a "gaming day" (which is a 24 hour period beginning and ending at some hour as set by the individual casino such as 4am but it could be any individual hour of the day.) Starting at $10,000.01 and above, the casino must file a "Cash Transaction Report" which will need to contain your personal information inclusive of a SS number. So they will need ask for your social. They may also ask you to fill out a W9 which is a formal way of requesting your social. Signing a W9 is basically signing that you have provided the correct SS to the entity you are providing it to.

Calling gaming is the best thing to do, In fact the casino has an affirmative statutory obligation to contact gaming when there is a gaming dispute over 500 dollars. But dont be surprised when gaming sides with the casino and instructs you to give your social, or your id, or whatever they feel like requiring you do.

No Idea why the casinos refuse to cash chips without ID.

In NJ and PA I know of arguments to support the unlawfulness of requesting ID to cash chips to the extent where it is absolutely prohibited by statute and common law. In fact during a criminal appeal of a trespass charge arising from this topic, A superior court judge accepted my argument that a NJ casino is prohibited from even asking for ID while redeeming chips.

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In NJ and PA I know of arguments to support the unlawfulness of requesting ID to cash chips to the extent where it is absolutely prohibited by statute and common law. In fact during a criminal appeal of a trespass charge arising from this topic, A superior court judge accepted my argument that a NJ casino is prohibited from even asking for ID while redeeming chips.

Knowing the case number of said case would go a long way in making this argument. Are you comfortable sharing that?

[ZenMaster_Flash]

"In NJ and PA I know of arguments to support the unlawfulness of requesting ID to cash chips to the extent where it is absolutely prohibited by statute and common law. In fact during a criminal appeal of a trespass charge arising from this topic, A superior court judge accepted my argument that a NJ casino is prohibited from even asking for ID while redeeming chips."

You were actually prosecuted under a trespass statute ?

I only ask because that is a rarity. I have been formally trespassed at several casinos but on the
few occasions where I returned to the property, I had not been arrested / charged / prosecuted.

Could you please elaborate.