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    Dealer took my $150 BJ and I couldn't ask for review

    first time this awkward situation happened - I put out a $100 bet and I'm not sure exactly what I was doing, but I guess I had a brain fart or I most likely looked away (or down at my phone) and when I looked back at the table, I had a Blackjack there, but there was no money on my circle. The TC was 2, which is my $100 bet. Dealer looks at me and confirms that I had the money on the circle, but it is now gone. We are trying to figure whether or not I pulled it back (muscle memory?) or if he took it by accident for lucky lucky sidebet. Regardless we call floor over, everyone agrees we have the bet out, but the pit wants to call upstairs to get a review. That is where the problem comes in - I've been ratting greens non-stop for the past two hours and had around $500 in greens and red chips. I recall instinctively I literally rat holed another $50 before that hand. So I decided to tell the floor its fine, don't call it up, "it's not worth the trouble, it's just one bet to me, it's fine". She said okay and play continued on.

    What would you have done. Risk it for the $150 BJ? Or take it hard and just play on for the sake of protecting your image? Note: this is my local casino and my only joint in like a 3 hour radius span. I figured giving it up (and who knows, maybe I did pull it back - so there was nothing to be gained if this was the case) would be the safest play. Regardless if they review, they will see my rathole... Right move or the $150 sac was too much for a simple 15 second replay review.
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    At local casinos it is dangerous to rathole that much money. I made that mistake and one day, as I was cashing my chips at the cashier, the guy gets a phone call asking how much I had cashed out and I had already laid out the rat holed chips along with my cashed out at the table chips. From the looks on the cashiers' face, I knew they had me. After that, I was meticulous in turning in chips that I had not rat holed and when another AP told me that it's likely I will get credited for any missing chips, I decided it's not worth it. Now, I rathole only about $100 in red or green chips, mix them in the next time I come to play,

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    I would have asked for a review but I would have been paying better attention to begin with. Of course I would only attempt to rathole on very specific conditions. I would think not allowing a review would look suspicious and there is a good chance they would review it anyway. This may surprise you but they are probably interested in what happened and getting it right. Many a Floor would make the call even when asked not to. It is their responsibility to get it right when anything is referred to them.

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    Tthree is quite correct.

    Dealers in the USA, (non Native American) twice a year (in most states)

    are subjected to a lengthy skill review by the E I T S.

    The dealer had screwed up by not knowing what had happened.

    They will want to know what happened -- IF the pit-critter isn't

    "covering" for the dealer, by ignoring the incident.



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    I can't believe you don't know what happened.
    "Everyone wants to be rich, but nobody wants to work for it." -Ryan Howard [The Office]

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollingStoned View Post
    I can't believe you don't know what happened.
    Shit happens. It's hard to be perfect. Though I suppose we could check with Mac Davis.

    http://youtu.be/itb6uNL_3ag

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    What good is counting if you cant remember where your money went and... if you can't remember what your bet was and where it went.... are you sure of the count? (Joking)

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    I remember I began my ramping process and had no intentions of wonging out yet; the dealer also confirmed he saw the bet out. But afterwards, no one knew what happened to the money. Tbh I wouldn't be shocked if I pulled it back as muscle memory/spaz while checking my phone for a quick second. Either that, or the dealer took it for LL sidebet.

    Oh the most interesting session in a while too. The dealer either said to me, lose count? was it 6 or 7. at first, i thought, holy crap, this guy knows how obvious it is that im counting. then after some analysis 1 hour later while lunch, I realized maybe he meant he lost count for himself while adding up the cards (like 16 or 17)? Sorta freaked me out, played it safe, and tipped $20.

    Oh at my local, first time a suit ever came up to me after the session. "Hey 20.2.1, do you play poker or bj here often?" In my head, I was this is it boys, Im going out on a win! paranoia set into my head, flashbacks of my first and only backoff came to. But this was way worse, this is my local and only spot. nooo! But then after a series of nervous questioning,he just offered to host me. 2 years playing there (6 months less as an okay cc), first time it has happened. Strange too, I was betting fairly relative small at 2 x $150 (never saw a tc-2+) yet i 2 x max on occasion.

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    "I remember I began my ramping process and had no intentions of wonging out yet; the dealer also confirmed he saw the bet out. But afterwards, no one knew what happened to the money. Tbh I wouldn't be shocked if I pulled it back as muscle memory/spaz while checking my phone for a quick second. Either that, or the dealer took it for LL sidebet. "

    Sooner or later, accidents happen whether looking at phone while driving or playing BJ.

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    You need a bumper sticker "

    Texting while playing kills your E.V.

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    You gave up $375 to maybe protect your ratholing?
    The Cash Cow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moo321 View Post
    You gave up $375 to maybe protect your ratholing?
    Good logical thinking there.... unless he ratted more that $375. Hey wait.... that is where the BJ payoff went... he is so good at ratholing chips that even he didn't notice!

    Or... Maybe he was more worried that the review would call attention to his whole playing session and not just the "missing" payoff so was worried about the tape review and calling attention to his play.

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