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    Southeast Asian game

    In Southeast Asia I encountered a game with a rule combination I have not seen before:
    S17
    6 Decks
    DAS
    D9-11
    ES10
    No surrender to Ace
    ENHC
    Doubling and splitting loses ALL bets to dealer blackjack
    RSA ONCE i.e. you split, get another ace, you can split this, then no more splitting allowed.
    What is the edge off the top for this game?

    I'd assume it is pretty high, maybe .6% and the fact that it is dealt from a CSM makes it worse, but I stumbled upon an advantage opportunity involving it nonetheless.

    How do Asian countries generally deal with having their games exploited? There is an entirely new set of conditions to consider when playing outside the U.S. and it probably isn't worth it without a massive edge...

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    No edge is this csm game.


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    CSM for any BJ game makes for pretty much a losing game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FalseCount View Post
    but I stumbled upon an advantage opportunity involving it nonetheless.
    Hi FalseCount

    I did not run a simulation but looked at various edge calculators. I could not find exactly the rules you show but I don't think the edge is quite -.60. The ES on 10 lowers it. I think it is more in the -.45 range.

    As far as Asian countries go. I have not played there but I did notice a reference to a player who got in trouble in Singapore. It is mentioned here.

    http://www.slot-machine-resource.com...s/emiller9.mp3

    Good luck with your advantage opportunity.
    Last edited by Bodarc; 08-07-2015 at 06:30 PM.
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    EV this rules with RSA -0.1985, and no RSA -0.2628

    p.s. Danger, in Cambodia all cheating, many small card.
    Last edited by Gramazeka; 08-07-2015 at 07:40 PM.
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