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    Session Limits/goals

    Hey ladies and gents,

    Im curious if it is more prudent to have a certain amount of time played or an actual win goal for sessions. I have merely been lurking here and just honing my hi-lo skills but would appreciate some input on having structure or limits per session. Appreciate the advice!

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    You should play as long as you have an advantage and measure your results by hours played and not by dollars won or lost on each session. According to the math, if you play correctly enough hours with an advantage, the wins will come.
    Play within your bankroll, pick your games with care and learn everything you can about the game. The winning will come. It has to. It's in the cards. -- Bryce Carlson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jc3 View Post
    Hey ladies and gents,

    Im curious if it is more prudent to have a certain amount of time played or an actual win goal for sessions. I have merely been lurking here and just honing my hi-lo skills but would appreciate some input on having structure or limits per session. Appreciate the advice!
    There are many different philosophies based upon where you play, how many casinos you have, how long you have travelled to get to the casino, if you play with a players card, the level you play (red or green or black), the heat at the casino, your fatigue level, your BR, whether and what amount you have won or lost at that session and more.

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    Some counter also say you should skedaddle when you max bet. Or at least change pits if permitted in your shop. If there is a lot of action in your area, stick to about 30 to 45 minutes per casino. If not, make sure you have a good act.

    Previous answers are also good, if not greater tools (knowledge) to your card counting kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jc3 View Post
    Hey ladies and gents,

    Im curious if it is more prudent to have a certain amount of time played or an actual win goal for sessions. I have merely been lurking here and just honing my hi-lo skills but would appreciate some input on having structure or limits per session. Appreciate the advice!
    While away from home play until you get the boot or you blow your trip roll. While in a home casino just remember to stay within their tolerance level per session, per shift. From my experience different shifts have totally different tolerance levels, it is best to learn them early and stick with playing only the shift with the biggest jackasses working the pit. Now if one of your home stores begins showing you signs of a potential BO - Examples attitude change from your host, mail offers greatly decrease, sly comment from a suit, etc.,) then I would suggest you start blasting away because there is NOTHING worse (IMO) than losing a home casino or all of them because of networking..... and then you are stuck traveling to play.

    Since you are still honing your skills remember to play with absolutely no cover because building an adequate BR may take some time and dedication to the game. I would also suggest that you play unrated unless you know they send great mail offers and you know will be back in the area to redeem whatever you receive.
    There is no glory in practice, but without practice there is no glory . -Unknown

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    Thanks for the great info everyone. I understand there are many variables including all the aforementioned ones and have considered stop-loss, heat and exhaustion amongst indications to call it a day. I guess I was just wondering more so if sometimes, at a home or local shop, lets say fair playing conditions, if you set a unit win amount. For example if you double your buy in does it suffice? I realize there will be a fair amount of losing sessions, but what do you set your expected win amount at prior to the trip or for a week? Lol im having a difficult time trying to articulate this question so I applaud any responses!

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    Quote Originally Posted by
    Since you are still honing your skills remember to play with absolutely no cover because building an adequate BR may take some time and dedication to the game. I would also suggest that you play unrated unless you know they send [U
    great[/U] mail offers and you know will be back in the area to redeem whatever you receive.
    Im slowly familiarizing myself with the glossary of terms, but what exactly does it mean to play with "no cover"?

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    Play strictly according to the strategy and make no bets to deceive the pit into thinking you are loser. Cover betting is used to hide the fact you are an AP but it cuts down on your expected value.
    Play within your bankroll, pick your games with care and learn everything you can about the game. The winning will come. It has to. It's in the cards. -- Bryce Carlson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodarc View Post
    Play strictly according to the strategy and make no bets to deceive the pit into thinking you are loser. Cover betting is used to hide the fact you are an AP but it cuts down on your expected value.
    While I do disagree with those who play with NO cover and/or play until they are barred or broke,
    I wish to say that when Bodarc says "… strictly according to the strategy …" he means splitting 10's
    and doubling Soft 20 when the appropriate index for the Basic Strategy Violation is fully realized.
    These plays very often result in rapid barrings, especially at the Green / Black Chip level of play.

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    Jc3, this may help you a little if you run across other terms new to you.

    http://dictionaryofgambling.com/gamb...s/blackjack/c/
    Play within your bankroll, pick your games with care and learn everything you can about the game. The winning will come. It has to. It's in the cards. -- Bryce Carlson

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