Anyone care to answer..

[DickFer]

The only solution is to copy their play! They must be doing it right if they're winning! They're probably using the EliteCount system 2000!

[Norm]

Norm, just give him the 'other players' answer. That is what he needs to hear.

Waiting for the trademark to be approved.

[21forme]

There are other players at the table?

(you're getting old and slow, Norm)

[Three]

Okay..what other factors? Yeah the count went positive at one point in the shoe (at +2) and I still lost three in a row..And I would like to restate something..If a player misplays (his/her hand)by not splitting at correct times-Do those actions affect the viability of the shoe? thx.

Are these serious questions? Sometimes it amazes me the way people learn to count cards but make no effort to learn how it works but only learn a formula and ten expect to win. Think about how card counting works. It doesn't work by figuring out when the cards are in a preordained order that will make you win. It works by identifying when the cards remaining give you an advantage and making bets and plays accordingly. You don't now what order the cards are coming in or what the dealers hole card is. Is the next card the card you want? How are you supposed to know. The count may be high and the next 20 cards might be low cards. Did that guy take the dealers bust card? How the hell do you know without knowing the dealers hole card. Maybe he took the card that would give the dealer 21. Counting doesn't guarantee anything. It says that if you play enough in any given situation that the results will approach expectation and the expectation is predicted by the count.

[scottwilliam]

Guys..thx for the replies..But all I have to say is ..You had to be there to see...

[Frank Galvin]

That's the thing, we all have been in that same spot, but now we're blind. We don't see anything anymore except cards, chips, the discard tray, the dealer, PBs, cocktail waitresses and perhaps an ASM.

Did you say there were other people at the table? Huh, gotta get my eyes checked, as I never see anyone else anymore.

[KJ]

That's the thing, we all have been in that same spot, but now we're blind. We don't see anything anymore except cards, chips, the discard tray, the dealer, PBs, cocktail waitresses and perhaps an ASM.

Did you say there were other people at the table? Huh, gotta get my eyes checked, as I never see anyone else anymore.

We see pit critters on the phone. We see groups of suits huddled together as if they are drawing up a 3rd down and eight play. But other players....not so much.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

" ...all I have to say is You had to be there to see...

We have ALL been there. Absolutely unremarkable.

Without being precise your approximate chance of winning any given

hand in BJ IF playing only PLUS true counts will be 43% to 48%.

If it bothers you in the slightest to lose hand after hand I suggest

taking up something more sedate like Solitaire, Scrabble, or Checkers.

[Ryemo]

Guys..thx for the replies..But all I have to say is ..You had to be there to see...

There is nothing to see. I hope you can undeerstand that how other players play their hands has absolutely no affect on you in the long run. I don't care if the guy next to you is hitting his hard 18's and splitting his 10's against an Ace! It doesn't matter. It won't change the odds and it won't change the game's outcome. If it did, the casinio would just hire bad players to sit at the tables all day long. I never watch how any of the other ploppies play their hands, unless I suspect I'm sitting with another counter. Otherwise, it doesn't matter. Focus more on your play and less on your neighbor's.

[kripton]

One doesn't. One profits from gaining an advantage by betting differently and playing differently according to the odds. Who cares how other players are doing? Do you take blood pressure meds because someone else at the table has hypertension?

LOL

[ZeeBabar]

LOL

Kripton, a more appropriate analogy is making love to someone while others are around. Some just cannot get it up when others are around.

[kripton]

Kripton, a more appropriate analogy is making love to someone while others are around. Some just cannot get it up when others are around.

Making love with at least one or two sound good to me Zeebabar.

[Freightman]

Making love with at least one or two sound good to me Zeebabar.

I suppose you could say that it breaks the monogamy of the situation