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  1. 02-21-2013, 06:33 PM #1
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    Don't reduce your bet on a new shuffle

    Is this necessary? We all play with mostly ploppies and I see them drop to the minimum bet at the start of a new shuffle. If they do, why wouldn’t I, although I do like to begin double the minimum. I see no reason to start big off the top because my last bet was large, but I know some feel the need for cover. I have never felt uncomfortable showing I am trying to get on a roll, but I do play short sessions and leave after some max bets at the end of a shuffle. I guess if I played long sessions and the chips were staking up, this would be a tell. Is it more length of session dependent or should it be done more consistently.
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  2. 02-21-2013, 06:42 PM #2
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    Probably 1D/2D games this is more relevant.

    In a shoe game the effect is less noticeable. In a shoe game you probably shouldn't be around for that many shuffles anyway for any serious pattern to be established.
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  3. 02-21-2013, 06:43 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baberuth View Post
    Is this necessary? We all play with mostly ploppies and I see them drop to the minimum bet at the start of a new shuffle. If they do, why wouldn’t I, although I do like to begin double the minimum. I see no reason to start big off the top because my last bet was large, but I know some feel the need for cover. I have never felt uncomfortable showing I am trying to get on a roll, but I do play short sessions and leave after some max bets at the end of a shuffle. I guess if I played long sessions and the chips were staking up, this would be a tell. Is it more length of session dependent or should it be done more consistently.
    Most ploppies believe and many said dealers win most of the first hands. Almost all ploppies reduce to minimal bet even they bet big in near end of a shoe. So you just do the same and add a comment that dealers win most of their first and last hand of a shoe.
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  4. 02-21-2013, 09:49 PM #4
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    After a big shoe, rather than bet big, just color up and ask the dealer to lammer up a couple of spots for you as you might be back in a few minutes after you check on something. Then go waok around for 5 or 10 minutes and then come back and start over with a small buy-in. Even if you stay, you will notice that even the most degenerate action gambler will trim their bet back to start a new shoe...so why not do the same thing. If you were spreading 25 to 2x500 or something you have a lot of room to lower your bet to start a new shoe without betting the absolute minimum.
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  5. 02-22-2013, 06:49 AM #5
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    Just drop the bet. Leaving huge bets up is a good way to double your N0.
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  6. 02-22-2013, 09:00 AM #6
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    Unless you're using more than counting, you're always at a disadvantage "off the top" so either bet the minimum (or don't play).
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  7. 02-22-2013, 10:22 AM #7
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  8. 02-22-2013, 11:00 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Leaving a big bet out for the new shuffle costs little if done sparingly.
    Don't be afraid of doing it on occaission, especially in premium 2D.
    Why (other than cover) would you make a big bet when playing at a disadvantage?
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  9. 02-22-2013, 11:03 AM #9
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    Almost every ploppy and dealer I've talked to agree: The dealer wins 82-86% of the first hand out of a shoe, so there is no reason to leave a big bet out!
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  11. 02-23-2013, 09:12 AM #11
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  12. 02-23-2013, 12:41 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Occasional cover costs next to nothing, so there is no reason not to.
    But why would one need cover if the ploppies, dealers and pit personel all agree that the dealer wins around 85% of the first hands out of the shoe? Everyone lowers their bet and it's "expected".
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