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Thread: What is playable house edge?

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    Beatable and playable are 2 very very different animals.

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    A game isn't good because:

    - It has a low HE
    - It has deep penetration
    - It has no heat
    - It has 400 rounds per hour
    - You can get a huge spread
    - You can do higher edge stuff (ie: not counting)
    - Or any other reason [alone].

    A game is good due to a combination of these factors. It matters what edge you as a player can get, does not matter what the base house edge.

    Find me a game with all the worst rules possible, but if you let me see the dealer's hole card or the next card....I'm going to play. Find me a game with a 0.1% HE, dealt to 95%, a million hands an hour....but if I can't do any index plays and I can't jump my bet at all....I ain't playing.

    If you play VP.....find me a game with a 5% HE but gives me 15% of my action back in FP [mail offers], I'm probably gonna be playing it. If you find me a 0.005% HE game, no slot points, no mail, no comps.....I don't care, I ain't playing! Yes I will play a 5% house edge VP game, but I don't care about the dang HE....I care about MY edge [which would be 10% in that case]. I wouldn't play a 0.005% house edge VP game if there's no incentive to play.


    It's not the house edge that matters....it's YOUR EDGE that matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollingStoned View Post
    If you play VP.....find me a game with a 5% HE but gives me 15% of my action back in FP [mail offers], I'm probably gonna be playing it. If you find me a 0.005% HE game, no slot points, no mail, no comps.....I don't care, I ain't playing! Yes I will play a 5% house edge VP game, but I don't care about the dang HE....I care about MY edge [which would be 10% in that case].
    Think again.

    You play $10000 through the VP machine. You lose 500 but get 1500 in FP. You play the the 1500 through and cash out 1425. You have won $925 playing through $10,000 cash. That is an edge of 9.25% not 10%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    Think again.

    You play $10000 through the VP machine. You lose 500 but get 1500 in FP. You play the the 1500 through and cash out 1425. You have won $925 playing through $10,000 cash. That is an edge of 9.25% not 10%.
    You're right, my apologies.

    Or perhaps it's $925 / $11,500 = 8.043..%.

    Either way, doesn't really matter. That's not the purpose of my post.
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    It is time to re-visit SCORE ("Standardized Comparison of Risk Evaluation")

    An incomparably excellent tool for game evaluation.

    Don Schlesinger ought to review his breakthrough concept for the newbies.

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