For Any Pros/Semi-Pros Out There

[Bodarc]

you dont play the game with a positive expectation.

Here is what bjarg means:
You and I flip coins for $100. Everytime I win, you pay me $100. If I lose, I pay you $99.50.
You jump your bet to $200, so if I win, you pay me $ 200. If I lose, I'll pay you $199.00.
You jump your bet again to $400. If I win, you pay me $400. If I lose, I'll pay you $398.00
You drop your bet back to $100. So again if I win, you pay me $100 and on losing, I'll pay you $99.50.

If you are playing at a disadvantage, no matter how much you bet or how you jump your bets, you are still at a disadvantage. See the drift?

[koreancowboy]

No, you are not a professional because you dont play the game with a positive expectation.
If you keep doing what you are doing eventually you WILL lose it all.

You say that like it's a guarantee.

My bank account says otherwise.

But hey, I didn't come here to argue...but if that's the norm here, then I'll go somewhere else.

[koreancowboy]

Here is what bjarg means:
You and I flip coins for $100. Everytime I win, you pay me $100. If I lose, I pay you $99.50.
You jump your bet to $200, so if I win, you pay me $ 200. If I lose, I'll pay you $199.00.
You jump your bet again to $400. If I win, you pay me $400. If I lose, I'll pay you $398.00
You drop your bet back to $100. So again if I win, you pay me $100 and on losing, I'll pay you $99.50.

If you are playing at a disadvantage, no matter how much you bet or how you jump your bets, you are still at a disadvantage. See the drift?

Ok, I get it now.

It's not set in stone that I play this way...I just adapted that from playing craps. Thus far, it works, but as I've stated in other threads, I'm open to modifying my game/betting strategy.

[Bodarc]

Then you should read, study, listen to bjarg and others on here and you might learn something. Just a friendly tip.

[bjarg]

My bank account says otherwise.

Ok.
Hello bank account.
Some friendly advice: dont go spend it all on cars and fancy suits just yet.

But hey, I didn't come here to argue...but if that's the norm here, then I'll go somewhere else.

Unless you are willing to accept that what Im telling you is the truth and make some changes, you probably should.
If you decide to do so I can even tell you where to go.
A paradise full of gambling "experts" and betting system savants.

Edit: Your betting strategy thread was already moved to the Disadvatage Forum. See what I mean?

[koreancowboy]

Then you should read, study, listen to bjarg and others on here and you might learn something. Just a friendly tip.

The only thing that I've learned so far is that there's some jerks on here...but as a long-time forum member (various car forums), I know that this is generally the case.

[KJ]

The only thing that I've learned so far is that there's some jerks on here...but as a long-time forum member (various car forums), I know that this is generally the case.

Koreancowboy, yes, there are some jerks on this forum. Many count me among them. But in this case, I really don't think anyone has tried to be a jerk to you, although it may seem to you that they have.

This is a forum based in playing blackjack at an advantage. The most common of these methods being card counting, although there are other methods. Without some method of gaining a long-term advantage over the casino, you are just gambling and you will lose in the long run. That's just fact. It also is fact, scientifically proven many times over, that any type of betting system alone, like the martingale system (double up) that you are describing will not overcome a negative EV game (casino advantage). So the membership here is fairly intolerant of players heading down that road.

I know that seems harsh, but it is what it is. But, if you are interested in learning how to truly gain a long-term advantage, slim as it may be, stick around. These people that it seems are being harsh and unwelcoming can and will teach you a lot, if you let them and really are interested. Some will even teach you more than necessary, making the game more complex than need be.

[koreancowboy]

Koreancowboy, yes, there are some jerks on this forum. Many count me among them. But in this case, I really don't think anyone has tried to be a jerk to you, although it may seem to you that they have.

This is a forum based in playing blackjack at an advantage. The most common of these methods being card counting, although there are other methods. Without some method of gaining a long-term advantage over the casino, you are just gambling and you will lose in the long run. That's just fact. It also is fact, scientifically proven many times over, that any type of betting system alone, like the martingale system (double up) that you are describing will not overcome a negative EV game (casino advantage). So the membership here is fairly intolerant of players heading down that road.

I know that seems harsh, but it is what it is. But, if you are interested in learning how to truly gain a long-term advantage, slim as it may be, stick around. These people that it seems are being harsh and unwelcoming can and will teach you a lot, if you let them and really are interested. Some will even teach you more than necessary, making the game more complex than need be.

I never said that I wasn't playing with a method...I mentioned the word "Martingale" and everyone flips out LOL.

Calm down, it isn't even that serious. It's a card game.

If you (and others) really want to help, try doing it in a less aggressive/condescending way. If you can't do that, then I can't help you.

[koreancowboy]

Ok.
Hello bank account.
Some friendly advice: dont go spend it all on cars and fancy suits just yet.



Unless you are willing to accept that what Im telling you is the truth and make some changes, you probably should.
If you decide to do so I can even tell you where to go.
A paradise full of gambling "experts" and betting system savants.

Edit: Your betting strategy thread was already moved to the Disadvatage Forum. See what I mean?

Good, I'm glad that it was moved there. I'll continue to not care.

Also, are you disagreeing with what my bank account says? Because I'm pretty sure that numbers don't lie. Moreover, please read my response to KJ.

[Three]

there is a free book in the tool bar above. Just click on it and start reading. Here is a link of a simulation of a martingale on a computer over time. If you play long enough this awaits you.

https://www.blackjackincolor.com/useless4.htm

[bjarg]

Also, are you disagreeing with what my bank account says? Because I'm pretty sure that numbers don't lie. Moreover, please read my response to KJ.

Its a pitty that you wont be here when you give it all back.
Something tells me you will remember us when that streak from hell puts you in the ground.

[NotEnoughHeat]

Pro: Someone who lives, eats, breathes AP and spends most of their waking hours involved in the AP business
Semi-Pro: Someone who can't commit to the hours of a Pro, but otherwise has the same skillset.

IMO, most people fall under the "Semi-Pro" label due to children, marriage, careers, etc.

I'm not sure if someone else brings this up later in the thread (I'm currently on pg. 2). If that's the case, excuse me for being redundant.

Isn't the above distinction the reason one of the forum members (someone might have to remind me who) offered the term PTPP (part-time professional player). Semi-pro is another good way of putting it, but it feel like it might sound misleading because it gives the impression that the 'normal' full-time pros are playing at a higher level (whether it stakes or something else) than the 'semi-pro'. I think PTPP is a better way of naming the 'semi-pro' since it doesn't imply any difference in arena or skill level.

[ArpTheFuture]

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