As the title suggests, I have noticed in the last few months a higher than normal amount of people who will play two hands and both bets will be different - sometimes by a reasonable difference (4 units; green). Is this a viable strategy? I would be inclined to think not as you can't really predict which one of two hands is going to be more profitable but thought that I would ask the question.
I would be interested in how you can predict a profitable hand, either one or two? Seriously, it has nothing to do with picking a profitable hand.Originally Posted by Coundos
I do this a lot in DD as part of an act to confuse the betting amounts and structure. It just looks like less money is bet rather than stacking it up on one hand. Bet more on the lucky hand, less on the unlucky one, then switch. The reality is that I am trying to get my ramp out there with the count and I really don't care which hand it is on. Playing the two hands gains the ev of both but the variance is less than betting the same amount on one hand.
Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!
"Playing the two hands gains the ev of both but the variance is less than betting the same amount on one hand."
I know you know this, but just to be clear: the variance is less than betting the same amount on one hand, but it is more than betting the same amount divided equally on the two hands.
Don
Not 100% sure, but I don't think that is what the Op was talking about Don. I envisioned it more of playing two hands, but vastly different amounts for cover purposes.
This reminded me of a guy I saw years ago in AC. He played 3 spots, but very, very different amounts. He might have $130 on one spot, $55 on another and $15 on the third. And the amounts would change each and every hand. It confused the hell out of me for a little while and the pit for much longer, although they eventually caught on. In the end the total amounts of all three wagers were moving up and down with the count. It just took a little while to spot it with the human eye. Computer analysis wouldn't have been fooled for nearly as long as the people in the pit and surveillance were.
Mathprof did a study on unequal betting.
For example, all of these two hand bets carry the same risk of ruin (See Mathprof's POM from Sept 2000 titled "Unequal Bets" in the bj21.com archives)
Hand 1 Hand 2
100.0 0.0
101.5 11.3
100.2 25.1
98.2 32.7
92.9 45.7
86.0 57.3
73.0 73.0
I know that calculating risk of ruin for blackjack can be quite impractical to do by hand, but I was wondering whether it would be easier to calculate the values of multiple hands that carry the same ror as a smaller number of hands or uneven bet sizes for the same amount of hands.
Does anyone know if you could calculate something like the table bigplayer gave without simply calculating individual rors? A practical limit for me would be something I can do using a spread sheet.
For own purposes, I would like to know how betting 3 and up hands would be done. Most resources I have seen only given the numbers for up to 2-4 spots.
I hadn't considered that but that might be it. It just seemed like an odd strategy to me.Not 100% sure, but I don't think that is what the Op was talking about Don. I envisioned it more of playing two hands, but vastly different amounts for cover purposes.
This reminded me of a guy I saw years ago in AC. He played 3 spots, but very, very different amounts. He might have $130 on one spot, $55 on another and $15 on the third. And the amounts would change each and every hand. It confused the hell out of me for a little while and the pit for much longer, although they eventually caught on. In the end the total amounts of all three wagers were moving up and down with the count. It just took a little while to spot it with the human eye. Computer analysis wouldn't have been fooled for nearly as long as the people in the pit and surveillance were.
I am actually very new to this topic and will likely be reading a lot more than I will post (which I have already started doing) and just thought that posting a question I had about recent observations would be a way to sort of start myself here. I hang out at the casino a lot with friends and mostly just drink and hang out but have recently started watching what people do and reading up on why people play blackjack (which lead me to counting and a whole assortment of stuff I have yet to understand). So total noob here for what that is worth.
But the situation was kind of like someone betting a hundred and twenty five on one spot with a twenty dollar bet on a different spot. They wouldn't even always play multiple spots either. It just didn't make sense to me.
In the casino I play in, the second hand must be at least twice the minimum so I always start out playing a $25 and a $50 hand and stay that way in neutral or TC plus 1 hands. When a TC is 2, it's $50 each hand. When TC is 2.5, it might be $50, $75, TC 3 it's $75 each, etc. It's a DD game and the difference between the hands is no more than $25.
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