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Thread: Are you a BJ AP or a BJ addict??

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    Are you a BJ AP or a BJ addict??

    I got inspired to create this thread from Zeebabar's post on a separate thread.

    What makes you an AP and an addict an addict??

    Zeebabar:
    A common trait of addicts is DENIAL and this is especially true of gamblers. They convince themselves that they are going to win and if they do, it gives them a reason to indulge and if they lose, they use the "math" to convince themselves their losses are just "Variance".

    Truth is that the addict cannot go to a casino and leave if conditions are not optimal so they sit down at bad games or crowded tables, convince themselves that they should not wong out at negative counts, that the count will turn and they remain in their seats and more.

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    Generally agree with the above comment. i leave most of the time . In about 5-10% of situation there is a desire to stay just to get even or come back to a certain degree from a setback ,so i think there is 5-10% degenerate blood in me. Eventually i do make myself leave because I lost a few more max bets or I just feel shameful of my behavior .

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    The point is you shouldn't be playing in the first place if conditions suck. If you feel getting in as many hours as you can rather than getting as many quality hours as are available you probably have a problem. I see people post on conditions I wouldn't even consider playing unless I find a tolerant crew. Nothing beats uncrowded conditions and a tolerant crew. Short of that rules and pen are very important. being on a trip and playing crowded conditions with crappy rules and a sweaty crew just to get in hours proves you an addict. A good AP will either be beating feet to another location or waiting for better conditions rather than play when it is basically gambling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    The point is you shouldn't be playing in the first place if conditions suck. If you feel getting in as many hours as you can rather than getting as many quality hours as are available you probably have a problem. I see people post on conditions I wouldn't even consider playing unless I find a tolerant crew. Nothing beats uncrowded conditions and a tolerant crew. Short of that rules and pen are very important. being on a trip and playing crowded conditions with crappy rules and a sweaty crew just to get in hours proves you an addict. A good AP will either be beating feet to another location or waiting for better conditions rather than play when it is basically gambling.
    This but also the mental aspect while playing and that is compulsory betting and chasing losses without next card information or an idea of future cards.

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    I don't have a problem, I can stop whenever I want.

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    Over the years, I have come to despise the casino environment and don't like to play. I have to force myself to get the hours in.
    Opinions and Commentary on the Gaming Industry: The Bear Growls

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    Addict- Probably the same loser who was worshiping some kind of voodoo on cards prior to ‘learning to count’. Whom in many cases is the same person that learned nothing more than the average joe and only knows “a couple” indexes, basic counting concepts, has a red chip replenishable roll, and to boot they are always looking for someone to stake their play.. Oh, and to add the people of this group are more than likely the ones you hear saying “it’s only a problem when I’m losing”.
    Last edited by Orangechip2; 05-22-2015 at 12:13 PM.

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    If you make a plan of attack when you go to Las Vegas or on a gambling trip, when the plan is to get there, check in a hotel, rest and play the next day or when the plan is to play short sessions and then you get there and throw away the plan, head to the tables first or you don't get up and leave after the planned short session, or cannot stick to your plan, then you are an addict first, an Ap second.

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    If you play a bad game because it is the only game in town and you want to practice - you are an addict!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avincow View Post
    I don't have a problem, I can stop whenever I want.

    yep..me too. i've done it many times! :P

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    I genuinely don't enjoy gambling so if the conditions are marginal or deteriorated, I'm out of there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVBear584 View Post
    Over the years, I have come to despise the casino environment and don't like to play. I have to force myself to get the hours in.
    Mr Bear, I hear ya and I feel exactly the same way. I only go to the casino when there is nothing better to do as I find it very boring. Strangely I still feel this way even though over the last year I have experienced some very good positive flux. Maybe it's because I am all business when I play as I consider it WORK, while I am retired from the day job. Apparently deep down I still enjoy the cat and mouse aspect of the game.

    BoSox

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    If you play a bad game because it is the only game in town and you want to practice - you are an addict!
    This sounds like it refers to someone we know

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