DD 50% pen. 25 min. wong out at tc -1, tc -2 1-4 spread heads up (200 hands /hr ?? ) tc +2 $40 tc+3 $50 ,tc+4 $ 60-$75 .at the last hand 2x$ 50 . possible to win?i believe it is probable ,need sim please. REason is low score and relative high risk but could get tp 200-300 hands /hr .Using 8k bankroll.
Wait......wong out of playing heads up? Sounds like a bad joke.
And if the count goes negative right away? You don't think that will raise flags to leave so soon?
I play an aggressive wong out style and as a result, there are times I exit almost immediately, rarely one, but sometimes after as few as 2 or 3 hands. I don't think it raises a red flag, as I see folks jumping in and out of games all the time. Ploppies hate these 'table-hoppers' because they think they change the flow of the cards. Usually these people's actions are fueled by superstitions. Often they are looking for a 'cold' dealer that breaks a lot and if the dealer doesn't break in the first couple hands, they move on. I've heard players say that if they lose their first 2 hands, they find a new table. You never know what is in these peoples minds and behind these actions and neither does the casino. So as I said, I don't think it raises a red flag, but it may make you a little more memorable, which is something I try hard to avoid. But, like most decisions, there are trade offs.Originally Posted by Tom
There are things you can do to raise less suspicion. Small buy-ins for one. If you are playing a $25 table and buy-in for $500, play 2 hands and exit with 18-20 chips, that is more suspicious than if you buy-in for $100 (4 units), play 2 hands and exit with 2-4 chips. Same with a $5 table. Try buying-in for 20 bucks instead of $100. With small buyins, it looks like you are down to your last amount of money, and desperately searching for a winning table, especially if you lose those few hands when the count is tanking. Added benefits are that you are usually immediately dismissed as no threat and rarely will anyone from the pit ask or hassle you for a players card. Another thing I do, is when this situation does occur is I either leave the casino entirely, switch pits, if it's a large casino, or maybe take a break for lunch if it is that time before resuming in that casino. I don't just move to the next table where if I did raise suspicion they can easily watch me and try to figure out what I am up to. Also, I dare say, playing unrated helps, for 2 reasons. 1.) If your quick exit does raise any kind of suspicion or extra attention, at least you haven't given a name to put with your face. And 2.) there is nothing worse than handing in your card, having the count tank immediately and you are standing there, ready to jet, before you even get your card back. The pit person hands you back your card and you are off. That, they will remember, simply because they look at it as you created extra work for them.
Last edited by KJ; 10-07-2012 at 11:17 PM.
Maybe this will help.HLS16F4.dd.wong-1.s1-4.pen50.200hph.jpg
Thanks for sharing, KJ. I have been becoming more aggressive with my wong-out style, but I feel it can start to become suspicious after a few "bathroom breaks" within the first few hands of a fresh shoe. (I guess I could tell them that I have uromysitisis poisoning.) After reading what you wrote, it seems obvious that I should be buying in for much less at one time, so I don't always get asked to color up the twenty table-minimum bets that I am fumbling in my hands.
I am not sure if i read right . I see $8000 trying to win $5000 is 75% ror??? I am trying to build something within 2- months for around 12k for a game that's 5-75 spread 6d,h17 das ls. good pen. and dd h17 das good pen (5-40) ,sometimes even 50 ,but sometimes 5-30 .The 50% pen garbage game is just a hit and run ,i would not care about heat and etc.... Once the count tank i can go do some cheap diversion .Actually i wong out at tc -2 a lot of times too. The tc-1 wong out is not workable but an assumption.I picked up a bit of $$$ already so i will probably stop and wait for the chance on my regular game .
Posting Permissions
-*-
Reply With Quote
Bookmarks