Question on building a optimal betting chart

[Guru]

So I am looking to build a chart that would give me indications on how many units to bet on every positive true count score, I have read allot of things on the net but cant seem to find the specific situation i need now, or maybe im just not smart enough....
This game is as follows :

-8 decks cut in half
-can only bet one spot
-cannot double or split after split
-no surrender
-can split aces with one card only on each
-cant take even money with bj vs dealer showing A
-lets ppl play out their hands when having a bj with hidden A
-can bet anywhere from 5$ to 1000$

I have played 11 hours of this game in 2 sessions and am up roughly 45 units with good knowledge on counting but not optimal knowledge on true count vs optimal betting.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

[Orangechip2]

Not sure that I can help you with the betting chart.. But, FYI this is not a good game.

[ZeeBabar]

"It's not a good game" is the understatement of the year. It's a horrible game that no good AP will play. Bad rules, extremely bad penetration. If you won 45 units, variance or luck was with you. You cannot be ahead after 20 hours in this game.

[KJ]

Horrible game, unplayable penetration (for most AP's, myself included), but that isn't really what they OP asked.

I am going to assume he knows that and wants to attack it anyway. So the way to do so, would be almost the same as a 6-5 game or even CSM. You are going to need a huge spread, a huge bankroll to support that spread and are going to experience huge variance and wild swings. If you are comfortable with all that, you set up your huge spread, ramping very quickly, jumping from your minimum wager to 30-50 x minimum at any advantage...which for this game is probably closer to TC+2, than TC +1 or just over +1 that it is for most games.

Side note: The OP made no mention of s17 or h17. I think we can all assume h17 based on all the other crappy rules. It is sad that h17 is now 'assumed' unless said otherwise. More concerning than s17 vs h17 is that it also wasn't mentioned what BJ pays.

[DSchles]

When you wrote that you can't take even money with your BJ vs. dealer's ace, does that mean they don't permit insurance, which is the same thing??

Take everyone's advice. This is a vile game. You won't win. You're wasting your time, and, eventually, your money.

Don

[KJ]

When you wrote that you can't take even money with your BJ vs. dealer's ace, does that mean they don't permit insurance, which is the same thing??

Take everyone's advice. This is a vile game. You won't win. You're wasting your time, and, eventually, your money.

Don

Yikes! I didn't even catch that Don. I read it as 'can'.

I have never encountered a BJ game with no insurance wagering. I suppose they exist, but I have never seen it in my small world.

[ohbehave]

Its probably you have to actually make the insurance wager rather than just asking for even money. Result is the same. Some stores don't allow the dealer to ask if you want even money, players has to ask. Not exactly the same but still another weird rule.

[Guru]

bj is 3 to 2 and dealer must stand on 17.
I understand this game is below many other games, but what this game offers me is worth some money, it is being behind my cpu screen, so not having to leave my home to play it, and I can count out loud, take notes, review notes etc... (since I am not an expert counter and surely i would not be able to do this live for the moment with stress factors and eyes on me) It is with a live dealer and a legit casino. I can vary bets by 50 cent increments from 5 to 1000, so I thought that was really a plus for me to maximise on high true count. I am no expert in this field, ive just started reading up on all of this, I have been a pro poker player for the last 8 years now and just looking for something else to do because i lowered my hours of poker time considerably (i have lost my mind playing 24 tables 50 hours per week...) All this is already helping allot though, so thanks in advance to everyone.

[Guru]

Oh and I forgot to mention, I saw this today so its kinda silly, yes you can take insurance when you have a bj vs an A, so I guess equal payment is there.

[BJGenius007]

The worst part is that you can't double after split and 50% penetration. Probably the worst 8 deck game in America.

[Stealth]

bj is 3 to 2 and dealer must stand on 17.
I understand this game is below many other games, but what this game offers me is worth some money, it is being behind my cpu screen, so not having to leave my home to play it, and I can count out loud, take notes, review notes etc... (since I am not an expert counter and surely i would not be able to do this live for the moment with stress factors and eyes on me) It is with a live dealer and a legit casino. I can vary bets by 50 cent increments from 5 to 1000, so I thought that was really a plus for me to maximise on high true count. I am no expert in this field, ive just started reading up on all of this, I have been a pro poker player for the last 8 years now and just looking for something else to do because i lowered my hours of poker time considerably (i have lost my mind playing 24 tables 50 hours per week...) All this is already helping allot though, so thanks in advance to everyone.

Not sure I understand the red text above. Is this a table game or a electronic game? If it is a table game how can you bet for .50 to 1,000??? No heat? PM me if this needs to go offline.

[Frank Galvin]

Not sure I understand the red text above. Is this a table game or a electronic game? If it is a table game how can you bet for .50 to 1,000??? No heat? PM me if this needs to go offline.

Sounds like the OP is playing blackjack online with an overseas live dealer. Dangerous! If they suspect you are counting, odds are you will lose your online bank. Go ahead and try to sue them. LOL.

[tjr5259]

Yeah it sounds like an online casino live dealer that gets maybe 25 hands an hour to a full table. They will be able to tell if you are counting cards and ramping your bets in high counts. You should rethink this if this is the case.