First trip as a counter

[Lamb]

So Friday night, after a long day of my wedding rehearsal, a friend and I decided to hit the casino. I had never been as an AP before, and had never done any scouting of my local stores, given the knowledge I've picked up over the past few months, so off we went.

I was getting married Saturday, and I'll chok it up as a learning experience.I walked into my first casino, ready to go, and things had changed since the last time I had been around. There it was, a nice, new CSM. So to the next table. It's DD, which isn't bad, but I've never practiced dividing in fractions as you do in a double deck game. So that's a no go. Then I looked at the table. Dealer hits 17. It was time to check the next casino.

Luckily, the next place was great. No CSM, dealer stands 17, pays 3:2, double after split, this was the gameTo play. To warm up, I stood at a full table and back counted for a while. The dealer was medium paced, dealing 6 hands, not including her own. I only came with $200, just to see how it all went, and to see where I needed to practice.

I was going to Wong in, but the table opened up right at the start of a shoe, so I decided, $5 min, if I just go simple and say I have 10x my max bet, I have a 1-4 spread, I'll pay rent and see how it goes.3.5 shoes later, I'm still at the table. The TC never rose above 1-2. The deck never became truly hot, but I played exactly how I was supposed to.

The table was going from 2 people, to 6 people all throughout the night. On that last shoe, pulled a pair of 8's, split them, got a 9, then an 8 on my second hand, split them again, got another 9, then a 10. I had 3 solid hands.Then the dealer flipped her whole card, pulled 3-4 cards and busted, which was great.

But, I somehow lost my count. Maybe she went faster than normal or I got distracted, but I knew I was off, and that was my time to stand up and walk away for the night. I had a wedding to get to. I cashed out, $5 down. I think my first trip was a success, at least in my book it was. Now time to practice even more, ready for the next trip.

[mushin]

During doubles, splits, Bj and other instances it is not uncommon for a new player to loose the count. For the mere fact that at that point you are putting more money on the table than normal. Your routine is changed and there is a lot of focus on the splitting and doubling, or the excitement of a blackjack when you have a max bet out.

It is good that you recognized that you lost count at that point just be aware of it the next time. Slow down your decisions to split and double and fixate on the count before you take the actions needed. Then fixate on the count right after each card. Once you get used to these situations you will be able to keep the count better.

[Lamb]

Yeah I knew the splits were where I had the highest risk of making a mistake, and I had split 1 or 2 hands before, but I split twice, having 3 hands was new lol. And the dealer definitely picked the pace up. I was at third base, so she was last in line.

I was happy about the outcome, definitely.

what got me about the night, I walked over to my friend who was at the roulette table all night, he's not an AP, but after that night he said he was going to start his study, but, I asked how he was doing, he's up over $200 lol. He also realized that was his time to walk away lol.

[Three]

On that last shoe, pulled a pair of 8's, split them, got a 9, then an 8 on my second hand, split them again, got another 9, then a 10. I had 3 solid hands.

Our definitions of solid hands must differ. 18 is a net loser and I guess I don't need to mention 17.

But, I somehow lost my count.

I think my first trip was a success, at least in my book it was. Now time to practice even more, ready for the next trip.

Losing the count is not good. I am pretty sure everyone does it from time to time. I know I would be lying if I said I never questioned my memory of the count. Practice, practice ,practice. I played when I upgraded counts just to see if I was ready or not. I wasn't. I did okay but there was a lot of room for improvement. It was a lot of work to do everything at once. Now I barely think about anything and my count is really complicated. Anyway, I practiced another month and had no problems.

[BJGenius007]

Question for T3. I want to know why people called you Lady T3 over there if you don't mind?

[Three]

You need to ask them. Maybe because I had fun making my sex a question mark for a short time. Mostly I am betting because they are insecure. Weak people feel stronger when they attack others especially when using a gang. That is a gang over there and all the negatives and lack of manhood that go along with being so weak that you can't make your own decisions or fight your own battles. They must work in group think and make attacks from behind the the shadows of the internet. If you visit there and are a strong and intelligent individual you should have no problem seeing right through the band of cowards leading the stupid war with Norm. Curiously for a conspiracy site they use the mind control techniques used by the Nazis and other governments to coral people to think in ways they should know is wrong. You would think conspiracy nuts would see right through that.

My take on conspiracy nuts is they were gullible and figured out their sources of info lied to them. They stopped giving any truth to those sources but were still weak minded gullible people and just found new sources of bad information that now controls what they think. The non gullible people that came to the same revelation simply view all sources with a jaundice eye. The gullible and weak minded must have someone to tell them what to think. ZG and a few leader types over there are corrupted by the power that controlling all those weak minded sheeple comes with. I am glad strong minded people come to this site with a civil tongue for the most part. The leaders saying something and all the sheeple piling on is just not appealing to a strong intellect. Just look at the crazy stuff they believe in and that should tell you all you need to know. They dismiss good sources that debunk their beliefs and trust with their entire being poor sources because they back up their belief. I am sure there are some over there just for the humor value that are not sheeple. I know I always thought it hilarious that the biggest bunch of sheeple around thought everyone that made their own judgements were sheeple. Those that are free of mind look at everything with skepticism. They see the big picture and make appropriate judgements. Not much of that on the "hate site".

Sorry about the possible derailing of the thread. I hope this won't divert discussion. The Genius should have started a new thread. Perhaps a mod can take care of moving this.

[Jabberwocky]

So Friday night, after a long day of my wedding rehearsal, a friend and I decided to hit the casino. I had never been as an AP before, and had never done any scouting of my local stores, given the knowledge I've picked up over the past few months, so off we went.

I was getting married Saturday, and I'll chok it up as a learning experience.I walked into my first casino, ready to go, and things had changed since the last time I had been around. There it was, a nice, new CSM. So to the next table. It's DD, which isn't bad, but I've never practiced dividing in fractions as you do in a double deck game. So that's a no go. Then I looked at the table. Dealer hits 17. It was time to check the next casino.

Luckily, the next place was great. No CSM, dealer stands 17, pays 3:2, double after split, this was the gameTo play. To warm up, I stood at a full table and back counted for a while. The dealer was medium paced, dealing 6 hands, not including her own. I only came with $200, just to see how it all went, and to see where I needed to practice.

I was going to Wong in, but the table opened up right at the start of a shoe, so I decided, $5 min, if I just go simple and say I have 10x my max bet, I have a 1-4 spread, I'll pay rent and see how it goes.3.5 shoes later, I'm still at the table. The TC never rose above 1-2. The deck never became truly hot, but I played exactly how I was supposed to.

The table was going from 2 people, to 6 people all throughout the night. On that last shoe, pulled a pair of 8's, split them, got a 9, then an 8 on my second hand, split them again, got another 9, then a 10. I had 3 solid hands.Then the dealer flipped her whole card, pulled 3-4 cards and busted, which was great.

But, I somehow lost my count. Maybe she went faster than normal or I got distracted, but I knew I was off, and that was my time to stand up and walk away for the night. I had a wedding to get to. I cashed out, $5 down. I think my first trip was a success, at least in my book it was. Now time to practice even more, ready for the next trip.

Blackjack and marriage are a bad mixture. They are both gambles; one played with money and the other played with emotions. Good luck with both.

[ZeeBabar]

Blackjack and marriage are a bad mixture. They are both gambles; one played with money and the other played with emotions. Good luck with both.

But if you are an AP in both, you will come out ahead in both!!! You jsu got to devote as much time to thinking about marriage as you do thinking about BJ!!!!

[Frank Galvin]

Uh. Excuse me kind sir. I realize you're a person of few words - but please clarify. Which one is played with money? and which one with emotion? One could argue they are both one in the same.

Moses, while you wander around in the desert (LV) for the next 40 years, would you kindly clarify whether your statement implies that one is married to the game of blackjack, or that they are playing a game called marriage?

btw, which one is the AP play?

[MJGolf]

Blackjack and marriage are a bad mixture. They are both gambles; one played with money and the other played with emotions. Good luck with both.

Excuse me but from "personal experience" if I had not terminated my marriage, my blackjack bankroll would be in a LOT better shape and need NO replenishment. So to agree with the above they BOTH "leak" money AND emotion! LOL

[Aslan]

During doubles, splits, Bj and other instances it is not uncommon for a new player to loose the count. For the mere fact that at that point you are putting more money on the table than normal. Your routine is changed and there is a lot of focus on the splitting and doubling, or the excitement of a blackjack when you have a max bet out.

It is good that you recognized that you lost count at that point just be aware of it the next time. Slow down your decisions to split and double and fixate on the count before you take the actions needed. Then fixate on the count right after each card. Once you get used to these situations you will be able to keep the count better.

Sometimes, I still do. It happened last ti.e I played after playing 3 hands with two of them splits, $600, $600, $250 on a $15 table, plus I miscalculated it was the last hand of the shoe.

[trey.95]

Ok I'm really new to card counting and this past week I started my bank roll at 500$. I went 4 times a total of probably 8 hours of play. It was a single deck game and most of the time I waited to play heads up. In my first week I was up 1000$. I went last night and played perfect strategy and had the count right and had a good betting unit playing with 500$ I was there for 8 hours! And ended the night losing the 500$ I went in with. All my moves were precise but all the wrong shit was happening. Does this happen often should I expect this? I know there's always a bad night but I played for 8 hours and the tables didn't turn once I just kept keeping myself in the game. Is only 4 hands in a head to head game bad cause that's all they would give me before the shuffle. And I guess my main question is that , are bad nights really common?


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[Bodarc]

I think the rule of thumb is that you can expect it about 40% of the time.

I would classify a good single deck game as one with good rules and being dealt by the "rule of six". That means:
1 player 5 rounds, 2 players 4 rounds, 3 players 3 rounds etc.

Your rounds count is not optimum but it is not too bad. I once saw a game dealt 1 player 2 rounds. Needless to say, no one would play it and they discontinued it.

If you have CVCX, you can set the cut by number of rounds instead of a fixed cut card and find out exactly the EV, SD etc of the game you are playing.