How Do You React After Winning MAX BET Hands?

[Aslan]

3 hands, ehh? My locals may chop my fingers off if I attempted a similar move .

Well, it was out of the ordinary for me, as well, but it was last shoe of that S17, 6-deck, late surrender, $15 min game that is usually reserved for $50 and up games at this casino, and I was losing more than a $1,000 at the time, so I felt it was time to pull out all the stops when we reached a TC+6 with only one other player. It was the perfect climate and excuse for making such a play, and it is a highly desirable thing to do if the casino will tolerate it, and since it was the last part of the last shoe anyway, it did not much matter. I had been betting $25 min for the past few shoes so the approx. 1 to 16 spread, reduced for number of hands, fit neatly into the scheme of things, and even more so since I had established $25 as my new min bet after having played most of the evening with $15 as my min bet. It is like spreading 1 to 26 (if $15 were my min bet), demonstrating the versatility of playing a lower min bet game than you need to and so giving you the ever available option of upping the ante, so to speak, without steaming out of control. In Las Vegas (I was not in Las Vegas) you can play $5 min games in which you can at some point establish yourself as a $10 or even $25 min bettor, and so up the ante beyond what would usually be tolerated. It appears to be steaming behavior to the onlooker, but it is really a way of starting out ultra conservatively and ramping it up as circumstances may demand. At times I have simply stayed at $5 and walked away with a quick and handsome profit, but more often it only paves the way for a steeper betting ramp. Mixing up bets from $5 to $25 (and everywhere in between) can help pave the way for establishing one's min bet at various levels putting you as the player in the driver's seat for how the session unfolds, which is always determined by how the cards run. Sometimes those coveted plus counts are few and far between, at other times, in quick succession. When circumstances favor it, you can do as I did this fortuitous evening. I didn't make a killing, but I did walk away winner. I believe you should always give yourself as many options as possible. As always, YMMV.

[Aslan]

"Pigs get fat Hogs get slaughtered." Playing 3 hands is great...also expensive. Winning at 3 hands spells disaster in very short order.

But if it falls within your acceptable betting ramp toned down to account for the multiple hands, it is not expensive at all. Now, if you mean by "Winning at 3 hands spells disaster" that you will attract attention, this is true under ordinary circumstances, but not so much when it's the last part of the last shoe of the night and you are staging a "comeback" from earlier losses. It has all the earmarks of "steamboating" without the negative consequences, that is, without betting more than you came prepared to bet.

[Aslan]

Hi five everybody around me, yell "woohoo" really loudly, tip the dealer, and then color it all up and head to the cage.

Precisely!

If you don't want to attract negative attention, my advice is to deliberately attract attention. This is what ploppies do; there is no greater "tell" then to visibly attempt not to draw attention. IMO, EITS's are on the lookout for the telltale slinking away from the table after a big win. Trying to hide such good fortune is not a common human trait unless you sense someone is about to hit you up for a big loan, or you are a retiring and humble candidate for sainthood.

[Exoter175]

Precisely!

If you don't want to attract negative attention, my advice is to deliberately attract attention. This is what ploppies do; there is no greater "tell" then to visibly attempt not to draw attention. IMO, EITS's are on the lookout for the telltale slinking away from the table after a big win. Trying to hide such good fortune is not a common human trait unless you sense someone is about to hit you up for a big loan, or you are a retiring and humble candidate for sainthood.

I'm glad I'm not the only one on here with the not-so-common sense. If you handle a big win like a robot, and then leave, its a pretty obvious sign that you were expecting that win in a way not befitting a ploppy who would normally erupt in joy and happiness.

[Orangechip2]

"Pigs get fat Hogs get slaughtered." Playing 3 hands is great...also expensive. Winning at 3 hands spells disaster in very short order.

I guess I'll be the boring guy. Every session has a purpose - a winning point and a losing point. Neither feels worthy of a celebration at the table. A max bet win creates the sensation of wanting the dealer to move efficiently to get the chips distributed. Losing is just part of the games volatility.

I'm amazed at the endless celebrations of the players during an NFL game. First down has to be signaled with a point and a dance. Touchdowns become a rendition of their Broadway act. I think the one that stands out most was an interception ran back to the 10 yard line. 1.) the QB threw the ball straight to the CB. 2.) all he had to do was catch and run in the other direction. The receiver was 5 yards behind him and running the other way. 3.) He got caught from behind and then jumps up celebrating like he'd really done something. 4.) The offense fumbled on the next play. So nothing was ever accomplished.

In blackjack, there is always the next play.

Wise words Moses.

A HS football coach of mine once about ripped me out of my helmet after a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty (after I ran the opening kick return back on senior night) . His words were "Act like you've scored a fuckin' touchdown before, dickhead". Needless to say that was our only score of the game 63-7 ....and it was not fun retuning kicks the other 8+ times .

As far as winning a max, super max, or even decent wager I'm 9x outta 10 playing by myself so I'll just gradually shake my head . Looks very similar to a loss if you ask me .

[Mickey]

"Pigs get fat Hogs get slaughtered."

Love it...

[Mickey]

If you don't want to attract negative attention, my advice is to deliberately attract attention.

I've found this bit of psychology to be true for me as well (not only in CC'ing but also in other facets of life).

[Exoter175]

I've found this bit of psychology to be true for me as well (not only in CC'ing but also in other facets of life).

And it works perfectly. I distinctly remember one time I was counting on a table that my non counting friends were playing on, hit a big.......big hand and yelled out "we're going to the sizzler". We don't actually have a sizzler, nor do I know what "the sizzler" is, but it felt like a great way to express my ploppy cover, and to also get my friends off the table, too.

[Shoofly]

I think the advice to show a lot of emotion to emulate ploppies is good for younger players, but my observations of older players is that they usually just sit quietly and watch the game.

[mofungoo]

Someone winning a biiiiig bet and not being excited JDLR.

[RS]

It obviously depends on the situation on how to react. If the pit boss is on the other side of the pit, he may not be aware of your action. Woohooing and hollering may attract him over. That's no bueno. On the other hand, if he's standing there watching, what better time to chest bump the boss?

People think ploppies start woohooing and hollering after hitting a big win -- which oftentimes is true. BUT, the degenerates, they rarely woohoo and holler. They're the ones who, no matter how much they win, still won't get ahead. The ploppies show positive emotion on big wins, while the degenerates show more negative emotion on big losses. Granted, that's not cut-and-dry for all players in those two groups, but, I think that is more accurate.

For example, I oftentimes observe craps players while in a casino. The degenerates are the ones who get pissed off every time there's a 7 out, whether it was a 2 minute roll or a 25 minute roll. They are never happy regardless of the results. The ploppies on the other hand [well, the players who are more related to BJ ploppies than degenerates], woop and holler after every roll, even if they're only getting paid out $7 on their $6 eight place bet or they win a $5 line bet.

[Aslan]

Of course in single deck one reaches the end of the deck constantly. I've never seen any move draw attention to a player (whether he is counting or not) quicker and more dramatic than a series of 3 hand bets.

True. And it's the first time I have ever done so. hahaha It was right for the moment. Announced last shoe of the night. Down to the last 3 or 4 hands of the shoe. One last chance to "get even." The perfect timing for the perfect opportunity at TC+6. And, the perfect cover-- my friends gathering around, drawing attention to the hand, myself included, in perfect ploppy style (my friends are all ploppies). When you deliberately draw attention to yourself, the attention is discounted by onlookers, including the EITS. When you draw attention, but try to act as if you're not doing something out of the ordinary, you're reaction is out of synch with what is going on and becomes a major tell.

[Aslan]

I think the advice to show a lot of emotion to emulate ploppies is good for younger players, but my observations of older players is that they usually just sit quietly and watch the game.

There's some truth to that. OTOH, I am 90 going on 22. [not really 90] I do not act my age (oh, my aching back; oh, my knees; oh, I missed my nap; dear me, my arthritis is killing me; Can you hold my walker in the pit? waitress, do you serve Ensure?-- hahaha).