cheating dealer

[Aslan]

middle-aged men wearing glasses.

Tip: Before buying in, ask the dealer if he wears contacts.

[Aslan]

you guys come to reno and you'll be blown away. about 50% of the places i play blackjack have cheating dealers.

Maybe if you talk to them you can work out a deal to your mutual benefit. smiley-angry007.gif

[Nanook]

The games dealt at the casino are already set up to make the casino money. The dealer doesn't benefit in any way by trying to cheat you. In fact, he will likely get LESS in tips if he makes more people lose than statistically normal.

Long story short - the dealers at the casino do NOT cheat. Why not? Because they don't have to, and because they would ultimately hurt themselves if they did.

Same thought for some sports book, even there are some good ones especially Asian Sportsbook. But take not all are trusted!

[Aslan]

Long story short - the dealers at the casino do NOT cheat. Why not? Because they don't have to, and because they would ultimately hurt themselves if they did.

Why do criminals cheat? Answer: Because they can (and because they're greedy). Why don't they realize that they would ultimately hurt themselves? Answer: Because they don't think they will get caught.

So, you don't believe a mob run casino would ever cheat a customer? I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.

[duckbern]

That does not mean that a specific pit boss wouldn't hire someone with "talent" and use him to keep his numbers up. I remember working for a large and famous hotel as wine steward. They would pick up untapped bottles of whiskey on a flatbed after large convention parties and roll them back to the liquor storage room, thereby keeping the hotels bottom line up. I also was told that one bartender would fill a Beefeater's gin and tonic order by using cheap bar gin and topping it with Beefeater's to achieve the smell and some of the taste. The corporation would fire an employee for doing such things, but of course it did not know about them.

That is very common especially in banquet houses. I know I've been a bartender for 35 years.

[BJGenius007]

Why do criminals cheat? Answer: Because they can (and because they're greedy). Why don't they realize that they would ultimately hurt themselves? Answer: Because they don't think they will get caught.

So, you don't believe a mob run casino would ever cheat a customer? I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.

This happened to me once. This dealer lost more than 60% of his hands that night. Players piled up chips. On top of that, he dealt out a Lucky Lady with him having a Blackjack. He just lost the casino $5,000. What did he do? He got even. For the next four color-up, he paid ploppies $100 to $300 short each even players were generous on tips. And no one paid attention except me. Ploppies just trusted him.

At first, I was not sure if this is deliberate or not. But after seeing him doing this four times, I know he was doing this on purpose. And I regret I ever gave this guy tips and will never play at his table again. Oh, if you ask me why I did not stop him, I have learned to mind my own business. Once I corrected a dealer's similar mistake, he retaliated by skipping paying my winning hands and calling my twenty-one twenty-two afterwards. So I try not to annoy the dealers. Some dealers are courteous but some are just plain azzh0les.

[Kat]

you guys come to reno and you'll be blown away. about 50% of the places i play blackjack have cheating dealers. it sucks when i play a dealer i don't recognize because i have to watch them closely. the casinos with the most cheaters is the circus circus and the eldorado. any handheld game with a dealer who's asian or male- stay away! half of the time i will see 3 crowded tables and then an empty sd table with some 50 asian lady dealer standing there. i just walk on by.

I note that WRX has a different opinion about those same joints. I take it from your post that crowded tables don't get cheating dealers, but empty tables with middle-aged Asian ladies are the cheats. Funny, later on that seems to change to middle-aged male dealers with glasses being suspect. So if these cheating dealers are apparently in plague proportions in Reno, I suppose there is a school for cheating dealers... to teach them the dark secrets. What exactly, do you suppose they are being taught, when it comes to the finer arts of blackjack dealer card cheating? And these dark secrets are obviously good enough to fool you.

[Slacker13]

Long story short - the dealers at the casino do NOT cheat. Why not? Because they don't have to, and because they would ultimately hurt themselves if they did.

The reason I hear most about is that the dealer is working with other players and helping them win. They cheat the unsuspecting players to balance out their table take.

[steveistheman84]

i think i was a little too paranoid a year or 2 ago about cheating dealers and reno has a lot of good places to play. and i'd say that 90% of dealers that i suspect of cheating actually are not. just be cautious, and watch the way they deal. if their thumb doesn't lift enough, or they toy with their rack a lot (as to turn the deck upside-down to peek at the top card), or if they just deal in a way that makes you nervous, just find a different table. it's not worth it. 1 cheating dealer can wipe out a week's worth of ev.

[stopgambling]

For the next four color-up, he paid ploppies $100 to $300 short each even players

it certainly can happen .

[San Jose Bella]

'2nds' is something surv has known for a long time but I only witnessed this once.

Haha, nice story! What is surv?

[San Jose Bella]

'2nds' is something surv has known for a long time but I only witnessed this once. In the beginning, we were looking for collusion but that was eliminated. We determined the dealer was helping out players who toked and killing those who did not. The final straw was when the cut card was observed being dealt as the hit card instead of the top card. Amazing, crooked and funny at the same time. Definitely, one of the incidents I will remember in my career.

Could you sue the casino and let them close the business if this happens?

[San Jose Bella]

'2nds' is something surv has known for a long time but I only witnessed this once. In the beginning, we were looking for collusion but that was eliminated. We determined the dealer was helping out players who toked and killing those who did not. The final straw was when the cut card was observed being dealt as the hit card instead of the top card. Amazing, crooked and funny at the same time. Definitely, one of the incidents I will remember in my career.

The second dealing cut card would be recorded by the camera. I think what I care more is whether I get a nice settlement in court, or casino pay the fine and I got nothing.