Gloom and doom of BJ

[cc12b]

Casinos are plucking the feathers of AP wings and soon AP will be extinct species. You may not agree with me but I list some reasons:
1-Shuffle tracking and Ace steering: How do you do it if they use ASMs?
2-You ague about Hands per hour: Here come CSMs and ASMs even video BJ that shuffle after every hand
3-Hold carding?: optical devices so dealers don't have to bend the card to check for natural or ENHC
4-Counting still work but they make it harder: 6 or 8 decks shoes with 50 to 60% cut, also see #2
5-6/5 BJ or even worst, it pays 1/1. Yes, you read it correctly, no typo
Locally, the casinos in my area recently set for DD cut to 60 cards with notch on the shoe box.
Not to mention counter measures like back off, 86 or flat betting, haft shoeing.
Please give me the reason/s to have positive thinking

[21forme]

Please give me the reason/s to have positive thinking

Start thinking outside the box.

For example, not long ago, there was a play on video BJ machines involving insurance. It's fixed now, so details don't matter, but as RWM has said many a time, AP has never been better because there are more casinos now than ever before.

[cottage cheese]

Start thinking outside the box.

For example, not long ago, there was a play on video BJ machines involving insurance. It's fixed now, so details don't matter, but as RWM has said many a time, AP has never been better because there are more casinos now than ever before.

But how do you find out about these opportunities? Do you just walk into every casino and sit down at every table/machine and look for one? Or is it word of mouth?

I'm strictly a recreational card counter but I have a very flexible job and some time on my hands and would love to learn about these opportunities, either as part of a team or on my own.

[bjarg]

Casinos are plucking the feathers of AP wings and soon AP will be extinct species. You may not agree with me but I list some reasons:
1-Shuffle tracking and Ace steering: How do you do it if they use ASMs?
2-You ague about Hands per hour: Here come CSMs and ASMs even video BJ that shuffle after every hand
3-Hold carding?: optical devices so dealers don't have to bend the card to check for natural or ENHC
4-Counting still work but they make it harder: 6 or 8 decks shoes with 50 to 60% cut, also see #2
5-6/5 BJ or even worst, it pays 1/1. Yes, you read it correctly, no typo
Locally, the casinos in my area recently set for DD cut to 60 cards with notch on the shoe box.
Not to mention counter measures like back off, 86 or flat betting, haft shoeing.
Please give me the reason/s to have positive thinking

All good news for real APs.

[ZeeBabar]

Casinos are plucking the feathers of AP wings and soon AP will be extinct species. You may not agree with me but I list some reasons:
1-Shuffle tracking and Ace steering: How do you do it if they use ASMs?
2-You ague about Hands per hour: Here come CSMs and ASMs even video BJ that shuffle after every hand
3-Hold carding?: optical devices so dealers don't have to bend the card to check for natural or ENHC
4-Counting still work but they make it harder: 6 or 8 decks shoes with 50 to 60% cut, also see #2
5-6/5 BJ or even worst, it pays 1/1. Yes, you read it correctly, no typo
Locally, the casinos in my area recently set for DD cut to 60 cards with notch on the shoe box.
Not to mention counter measures like back off, 86 or flat betting, haft shoeing.
Please give me the reason/s to have positive thinking

As regards #4, #5 and DD penetration, the fact is that in most places in the USA, and there are far more casinos than 10 years ago, you can easily find 75% penetration in 6 and 8 deck games and 65% on DD games.

I think only a very small tiny percentage can actually make a high 5 figure income just counting cards. However, the casinos are a lot more tolerant of those who count cards and play with reasonable spreads. I play rated and a casino did put me on OSN data base. I dont use much cover but its sufficient. They know I am out to have a good time with the least amount of cost to the casino and am obviously not relying on the casino to pay my bills. They have never seen me bet over $200 and more often its far less. They have seen me walk away when a shoe was positive, seen me double and insure for less.

I think its stupid to now start a career in BJ, but it can supplement your income provided you do not make it obvious you are there to make a killing. As you may have read on another thread currently running that I am an easily identifiable card counter, that everyone seems to know my name and to the great chagrin of a majority of them, they still let me play despite all that.

[Solo player]

But how do you find out about these opportunities? Do you just walk into every casino and sit down at every table/machine and look for one? Or is it word of mouth?

I'm strictly a recreational card counter but I have a very flexible job and some time on my hands and would love to learn about these opportunities, either as part of a team or on my own.

A lot of homework, leg work, and networking with others. It's called scouting for a reason. Don't go into a casino with blinders on. Look at all the games, machines, casino promos, dealers and etc.

[Three]

A lot of homework, leg work, and networking with others. It's called scouting for a reason. Don't go into a casino with blinders on. Look at all the games, machines, casino promos, dealers and etc.

+1

[Dbs6582]

+1

Whenever I see people doing this +1 stuff, I always wonder why they don’t just hit yes on the post? Doesn’t that do pretty much the same thing, but it doesn’t add another meaningless post to the thread? Now if someone does a +1000 then I can see doing this. There is no yes 1000 button on the post.

[Three]

Whenever I see people doing this +1 stuff, I always wonder why they don’t just hit yes on the post? Doesn’t that do pretty much the same thing, but it doesn’t add another meaningless post to the thread?

+1 is more visible and means a higher degree of agreement than it was helpful. Most people don't really worry about thread post count. Especially when the additional post is the minimum 2 characters in length. Post count is just a silly thing to obsess over, especially in this context. I can understand people wanting to read what a particular poster posts but not liking reading the post length required to do so.

[Joe Mama]

Casinos are plucking the feathers of AP wings and soon AP will be extinct species. You may not agree with me but I list some reasons:
1-Shuffle tracking and Ace steering: How do you do it if they use ASMs?
2-You ague about Hands per hour: Here come CSMs and ASMs even video BJ that shuffle after every hand
3-Hold carding?: optical devices so dealers don't have to bend the card to check for natural or ENHC
4-Counting still work but they make it harder: 6 or 8 decks shoes with 50 to 60% cut, also see #2
5-6/5 BJ or even worst, it pays 1/1. Yes, you read it correctly, no typo
Locally, the casinos in my area recently set for DD cut to 60 cards with notch on the shoe box.
Not to mention counter measures like back off, 86 or flat betting, haft shoeing.
Please give me the reason/s to have positive thinking

Here's another one I got recently. Do you have a player's card? No. Can I see your ID? No. You can't play DD BJ here without showing card or ID. Bye.

[LVBear584]

Here's another one I got recently. Do you have a player's card? No. Can I see your ID? No. You can't play DD BJ here without showing card or ID. Bye.

Harrah's San Diego?

[21forme]

In AC, some places will only let you bet a max of 10x table minimum if you play unrated. So, if it's a $10-3000 table, you can only bet up to $100 unrated.

[Joe Mama]

Harrah's San Diego?

No. It was at a Horseshoe property which I think is the same chain.