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    Risk-Averse, how much does it help your ROR.

    Lets say your playing at 1.8% ROR on CVCX canned sim wonging in a +3 H17, LS, and DOA. Messing with CVDATA and generating RA indices standard speed actually raised my RA. Another AP told me it would drop it to 1.4% ROR in this scenario that seems a little much to me.
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    1.8 - 1.4? Find something else to worry about.

    You might see a change in N0 using RA indices.
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    Risk averse indices don't affect RoR if you use them as intended. The idea is that you sacrifice some EV on plays where adding money to the table (doubling and splitting) doesn't bring much of a return for the money added. Basically for a small increase in EV you invite larger swings by increasing the money at stake. You wait for the increase in EV to be worth the added monetary risk (swings). This would allow slightly larger bets with the same RoR. So you end up making more money from the slight increase in all bets and that is more than more than the loss of EV in the few plays with RA indices.

    Most likely you are betting so small that larger optimal bets aren't practical so they are increased so much to get a round practical bet like 30 instead of 28 that RoR increases. Ideally risk of ruin stays the same but your bets increase slightly. If you are a red chipper the practical bets may not change and you do see a decrease in RoR. If that is the case you are probably playing to a high RoR anyway and the reduction of RoR may be welcome but your EV will go down slightly.

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    10 v. 10 is easily the most important. You would be fine just using this one.
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    I got it now...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    Risk averse indices don't affect RoR if you use them as intended. The idea is that you sacrifice some EV on plays where adding money to the table (doubling and splitting) doesn't bring much of a return for the money added. Basically for a small increase in EV you invite larger swings by increasing the money at stake. You wait for the increase in EV to be worth the added monetary risk (swings). This would allow slightly larger bets with the same RoR. So you end up making more money from the slight increase in all bets and that is more than more than the loss of EV in the few plays with RA indices.

    Most likely you are betting so small that larger optimal bets aren't practical so they are increased so much to get a round practical bet like 30 instead of 28 that RoR increases. Ideally risk of ruin stays the same but your bets increase slightly. If you are a red chipper the practical bets may not change and you do see a decrease in RoR. If that is the case you are probably playing to a high RoR anyway and the reduction of RoR may be welcome but your EV will go down slightly.
    Thanks for the remedial T3, always helpful as usual.

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